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Re:Boeing chief must have engineering background, Emirates b... by PaulHoule on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @07:45AM (#39837806)
There’s also the question of where the rot really started.

I’d say that it goes back fairly far to the early 2000s or so when they should have had a development cadence like “widebody, narrowbody, widebody, narrowbody” because narrowbody is 80% of the market but instead it has been “widebody, widebody, widebody, widebody, yet another widebody”. Airbus and Boeing colluded to compete with one hand behind their backs in this time period which was profitable in the short term but would kill Boeing in the long term if it were not “too essential to national defense to fail” —- that is, with fly-by-wire and better geometry the A320 has more of a future (can even steal some of the widebody business) not the mention Airbus bought the A220 which is a next-generation narrowbody which was developed not by a big manufacturer but a small manufacturer backed by the Canadian government.

Try getting a flight in a modern narrowbody like the E2-Jet or A220 on an airline like Breeze and you will se that nobody would put up with riding in a 737 if they had a choice; even though that kind of plane is small on the outside it feels big on the outside, comfort is much more like a huge plane. It’s one of those things you have to fly to believe.

Re:Boeing chief must have engineering background, Emirates b... by decafninja on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:10AM (#39837999)
I recently flew an A220 (Korean Air). When I saw that the plane for the flight was an A220, I was curious what the buzz was over this plane.

It was…alright. It also felt very cramped. Seating was 2-3 across. People had noticeable trouble walking down the aisle. Opening the overhead bins seemed dangerous as it could easily bang someone’s head.

I last took a 737 (unsure of variant, but wasn’t a Max) in 2022, but I don’t remember it being as cramped as the A220.

Re:Boeing chief must have engineering background, Emirates b... by dagw on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:25AM (#39838127)
It was…alright. It also felt very cramped.

The 'buzz' about the A220 is that you can fly more people further while using less fuel. All of this is super exciting if you are an airline, but nothing that directly benefits you as a passenger. There are various configurations of the A220, but the most 'efficient' ones are very cramped.

Re:Boeing chief must have engineering background, Emirates b... by decafninja on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @10:42AM (#39839842)
I was mainly responding to the previous post that implied the A220 was inherently nicer than a 737.

I looked up the Breeze example given, and while the seats and cabin do look amazing, I don’t see why the same couldn’t be equipped on a 737. That’s more a function of what the airline wants, isn’t it?

The A220 I rode definitely did not “feel big in the inside”.

Re:Boeing chief must have engineering background, Emirates b... by jakogut on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:33AM (#39838197)
This doesn't translate into lower ticket prices?
Re:Boeing chief must have engineering background, Emirates b... by M95D on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @09:34AM (#39838868)
Only lower demand could potentially translate into lower ticket prices. Why would a company lower prices (and profit) if people fly anyway at current prices?
Re:Boeing chief must have engineering background, Emirates b... by PaulHoule on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @10:01AM (#39839222)
Re:Boeing chief must have engineering background, Emirates b... by Pet_Ant on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:59AM (#39838464)
Lower price is caused by another airline offering the same flight for less.

A cheaper flight enables for this to happen, but does not guarantee it.

Re:Boeing chief must have engineering background, Emirates b... by EasyMark on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @10:11AM (#39839354)
well cheaper for the airline can lower the floor price. At some point it's no longer possible to make a profit at all, and over time the airline has to recognize that or go bankrupt
Re:Boeing chief must have engineering background, Emirates b... by sandmn on Thursday March 28, 2024 @04:49AM (#39848950)
I flew it couple of times. For me it's nicer because of 2-3 seating - smaller % of middle seats and if you're flying with someone you can take 2 seats next to each other. Also economy seats are slightly wider (0.5-1 inch) which is not much but still appreciated.

They are definitely felt much nicer and quieter than smaller planes like Embraer E175 or E195.