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Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @02:23PM (#39831116)
I would and furthermore I think there is a massive bias at play - if the exact same disaster happened in China there would be jokes about bridges made of Chinesium.

There is an expectation that a disaster happening in the west in a result of unforeseeable act of god, but in China it will be a result of corruption or shoddy workmanship.

Whereas in reality maintenance standard in the west have fallen but in the east they improved.

So now this bias protects responsible decision makers from legal consequences - no one went to prison for grenfell disaster, postmaster scandal or the Boeing debacle.

Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by BHSPitMonkey on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @03:19PM (#39831756)
> Whereas in reality maintenance standard in the west have fallen

In the context of this incident, are you saying that we _previously_ used to go around retrofitting our 50-year-old bridges with more modern defenses, and then at some point since then we stopped doing this? Obviously if we're talking about new construction, it stands to reason that standards have only _increased_, but this was an old bridge built to old standards. So which standards have "fallen" to result in this disaster specifically?

Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by ClumsyPilot on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @07:38AM (#39837772)
Literally, yes, someone is responsible

> 46,154, or 7.5% of the nation’s bridges, are considered structurally deficient, meaning they are in “poor” condition. Unfortunately, 178 million trips are taken across these structurally deficient bridges every day

Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by BHSPitMonkey on Thursday March 28, 2024 @04:32PM (#39856951)
That doesn't answer the question I asked regarding the specific claim that maintenance standards have fallen.

For example, it's possible maintenance standards never changed and the old bridges simply got older and more exposed to risk as the years went on.

Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by Spooky23 on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @08:21PM (#39834393)
Well everyone involved in the design of this bridge is long dead.