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Re:Facebook now informs the sender if you've read their message by adgar on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @04:08AM (#3980979)
> Then, umm, don't add them as friends.

This completely ignores the reality of how people use Facebook, as if one could partition every personal relationship in your life into two homogeneous groups "friends" and "not friends."

Yes, I know you can have friend lists on Facebook, but this feature clearly embraces its uniformity.

Re:Facebook now informs the sender if you've read their message by gaius on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @04:29AM (#3981038)
It's worth noting that G+ was intended to solve the fine-grained partitioning of people, and yet, no-one I know uses it regularly. It's FB for friends, LinkedIn for work contacts, for most people.
Re:Facebook now informs the sender if you've read their message by CodeMage on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @08:47AM (#3981749)
You missed the point. Your original comment was an oversimplification of how people interact, similar to the argument "If you're not doing anything bad, you have nothing to hide."

The way people interact with other people can not be reduced to a finite set of values, such as "friend or not friend" or "family member, lover, friend, acquaintance, co-worker". In other words, this is not a Facebook vs. G+ dilemma.

The problem here is the fact that Facebook has, yet again, limited the way we interact with other people by imposing their own structure and rules: if you don't want a person to know you're paying attention to them, don't pay attention to them.

Your proposed solution of "don't add them as a friend" is even more restricted. Maybe it's your way of interacting with people, but I don't see how it's justified to try to impose it on everyone else.

Re:Facebook now informs the sender if you've read their message by toemetoch on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @08:06AM (#3981646)
No, this grouping is not the intent but the consequence. What you actually do on G+ is tagging people and viewing them by tag. After a while, the tag-cloud per person over several accounts is a very nice statistical description. Most will tag you as friend or colleague, others will put you in a partition where they group acquaintances by hobby or interest.
Re:Facebook now informs the sender if you've read their message by adgar on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @05:30AM (#3981277)
> It's worth noting that G+ was intended to solve the fine-grained partitioning of people, and yet, no-one I know uses it regularly.

So... you're arguing that people choose social networks based on more than the presence of a particular implementation of a single feature? Groundbreaking addition to your "all your friends are the same" theory.

Re:Facebook now informs the sender if you've read their message by gaius on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @06:35AM (#3981405)
No, I'm arguing that partitioning of friends groups isn't a serious (enough) problem that anyone cares.
Re:Facebook now informs the sender if you've read their message by Karunamon on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @12:03PM (#3982591)
>This completely ignores the reality of how people use Facebook

Then people need to use Facebook differently. Seriously. What is hard to understand about Don't friend people you don't want to share info with?

This seems like common sense advice, like "Don't knock on the door of people you don't intend to speak to".

Re:Facebook now informs the sender if you've read their message by mason55 on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @12:52PM (#3982839)
I have plenty of people I want to share info with. I can't think of a single person where there aren't times where I want to respond to their message later. Girlfriend, best friends, parents. All of them might wonder why it took me a day or two to respond after reading a message. I know I get grumpy when I see someone has read an iMessage and not responded.
Re:Facebook now informs the sender if you've read their message by zuralski on Wednesday May 16, 2012 @04:20AM (#3981009)
The logical conclusion then is that "the reality of how people use Facebook" is going to change. Facebook (not for the first time) is attempting to shape users' behaviour. I am curious what sort of thinking went behind this change.