GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account

Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by joering2 on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @09:15PM (#3979859)

I don't see a problem here. Most of folks here, including myself, over the span of one weekend could write a downloadable version of a Visual Basic application with a built-in Internet Explorer Window where you login to your facebook and then the app scrap (download) all data you ever had, all messages, photos, etc, everything within a couple of minutes, elegantly packet into zip, xml or whatever format you wish to have it!

Zuck could do shit, because that downloadable app would use client local IP, so they would have to block _everyone_ in order to stop the app. Further, it would use built-in IE frame, so all request would look like coming from legitimate Internet Explorer user. You could also implement "wait(rand [sec 1-5])" between downloading requests, so it looks more messy, more like a human that is clicking, rather then robot pulling requests in miliseconds.

Zuck once had hacked into school system. Who knows -- would be crazy to see an App that so easily ported out all your data out of Facebook, and see Zuck trying to stop it :)

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Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by Xuzz on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @10:09PM (#3980035)

Or just use their built in data exporter, which while not instant, does include all photos and information that user posted. No need to build anything, really.

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Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by beedogs on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @10:46PM (#3980175)

I'm not even sure I'd need my photos; I've got better copies of most of them in Aperture anyway. In fact, I'm really not sure what I'd want to keep from Facebook if I were to leave the site for good.

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Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by untog on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @09:17PM (#3979862)

then the app scrap (download) all data you ever had, all messages, photos, etc, everything within a couple of minutes

If you think you could download people's entire photo collections in a "couple of minutes" then you underestimate the insane number of photos uploaded to Facebook every day.

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Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by joering2 on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @09:25PM (#3979883)

no, you misunderstood or I haven't explained properly (mostly the latter).

What I said is that the App would download all _your_ photos that you owe on your account. Given that it takes couple seconds max until I see a full photo from the moment I clicked it, it would take tens of minutes to download hundreds of photos: 5 sec per photo x 200 photos == 16 minutes of robot's work while you enjoy your drink.

edit: so this "I would argue that things like the massive photo collections people have made provide a large level of lock-in" becomes an irrelevant problem.

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Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by sirclueless on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @10:07PM (#3980026)

You still lose the entire network of tags around each photo. The most valuable thing about Facebook photos over, say, Flickr photos, is knowing who is in them.

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Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by joering2 on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @10:50PM (#3980197)

those are little issues that can be programmed in. I can save every photo tag and info about tag for uploading that info into the new network (but saving it for now)

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Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by jvrossb on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @10:03PM (#3980011)

Don't think so. Your hypothetical app saves all of my photos, but I suspect people spend far more time browsing other peoples' photos. Those I don't get by being the first to migrate to a Facebook competitor. That's where the powerful lock-in lies.

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Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by joering2 on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @10:52PM (#3980208)

no it doesnt. when something "better" shows up people will want to move on, but you are right there will be like "oh, all my photos and tags, I cant leave them". "But wait, there is that App that Joe programmed and Mary, Mike, John and Jennie already used it, I can use it too and all my photos will be re-linked and re-tagged on that new site. yay me!"

is it really that hard to imagine??

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Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by Amand33pverma on Friday May 18, 2012 @12:28AM (#3990355)

Aman verma

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Re:GM Says Facebook Ads Don't Work, Pulls $10 Million Account by freehunter on Tuesday May 15, 2012 @10:46PM (#3980167)

This hypothetical app exists. I used it when I started using Google+ to copy my photos over to Picasa. I believe it was a Chrome extension.

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