Re:Natural language instructions induce generalization in ne...
by Teever on Thursday March 21, 2024 @04:56PM
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Compute may be substrate independent, but that isn't the point that the person you're replying to is refuting.
> It's clear that both biological sentient beings and sentient being made in factories in the future will essentially be two sides of the same coin...
> why should we consider the sentient being made of cells inherently superior to its transistor-based counterpart?
The defining characteristic of life as we know it, and unique quality of Earth as compared to other planets as we have measured them is the ability to self replicate, and the presence of self replicating matter.
Supposedly a single cell created all life on earth and is therefore directly responsible for every facet of the nature of Earth today. Over hundreds of millions of years the entire atmosphere, and entire surface of the earth as well as unmeasured parts of the sub surface of earth have been completely reshaped and defined by living cells all descended from that original cell.
We're very likely able to create human level intelligence or even super human level intelligence that operates in a factory produced robot body that can survive a human level life span with some sort of maintenance comparable to that of a mechanic/surgeon but if that being needs a factory to generate parts or progeny then it is intrinsically lacking compared to self-replicating cellular life.
Self-replication is a powerful ability that is intrinsic to life and deeply related to intelligent systems. As fabulous as a 4090 may be to us at this point in time, it is incomparable to a group of entities such as a humans that can create a civilization that can make a 4090, whatever material that 4090 may be made of.
A far more profoundly fascinating object is the factory that can make robots that can operate the factory that can make more of the robots, and better. And that's what multi-cellular life really is.
Until a 4090 type device can make more of itself and other by-products like multi-cellular life, the multi-cellular life that can make more of itself and by-products like a 4090 type device is intrinsically better.
> It's clear that both biological sentient beings and sentient being made in factories in the future will essentially be two sides of the same coin...
> why should we consider the sentient being made of cells inherently superior to its transistor-based counterpart?
The defining characteristic of life as we know it, and unique quality of Earth as compared to other planets as we have measured them is the ability to self replicate, and the presence of self replicating matter.
Supposedly a single cell created all life on earth and is therefore directly responsible for every facet of the nature of Earth today. Over hundreds of millions of years the entire atmosphere, and entire surface of the earth as well as unmeasured parts of the sub surface of earth have been completely reshaped and defined by living cells all descended from that original cell.
We're very likely able to create human level intelligence or even super human level intelligence that operates in a factory produced robot body that can survive a human level life span with some sort of maintenance comparable to that of a mechanic/surgeon but if that being needs a factory to generate parts or progeny then it is intrinsically lacking compared to self-replicating cellular life.
Self-replication is a powerful ability that is intrinsic to life and deeply related to intelligent systems. As fabulous as a 4090 may be to us at this point in time, it is incomparable to a group of entities such as a humans that can create a civilization that can make a 4090, whatever material that 4090 may be made of.
A far more profoundly fascinating object is the factory that can make robots that can operate the factory that can make more of the robots, and better. And that's what multi-cellular life really is.
Until a 4090 type device can make more of itself and other by-products like multi-cellular life, the multi-cellular life that can make more of itself and by-products like a 4090 type device is intrinsically better.