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Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by akira2501 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:24PM (#39782439)
> In lieu of this what is the problem?

You assertions are immaterial to the fact that they are breaking the law. Monopolies and monopolistic practices are flatly illegal.

You're also viewing this exclusively through the lens of the "consumer" experience while fully ignoring the effects on the "labor" and "supplier" market.

> The government seems to want to make it illegal to have a tight experience

Is there some evidence that a monopoly is absolutely required to have a "tight experience?"

Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by CubsFan1060 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:36PM (#39782599)
Your first sentence is incorrect. Monopolies are not illegal.

From the press conference this morning: "It is not illegal to hold a monopoly, Garland said. "

"That may sound counterintuitive in a case intended to fight monopolies. But under US antitrust law, it is only illegal when a monopolist resorts to anticompetitive tactics, or harms competition, in an effort to maintain that monopoly."

https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/doj-apple-antitrust-l...

Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by akira2501 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:53PM (#39782827)
My first sentence is completely correct. I just happen to disagree with Merrick Garland's blatant misrepresentation of the Sherman Act.
Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by pama on Friday March 22, 2024 @09:16AM (#39790409)
So if everyone else decides to exit a market, your sole product becomes illegal?
Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by akira2501 on Friday March 22, 2024 @09:39PM (#39796681)
Markets are typically broader than a single product and in the history capitalism has this actually happened?
Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by thenanyu on Saturday March 23, 2024 @01:28PM (#39801551)
yes. ASML.
Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by pama on Saturday March 23, 2024 @01:59PM (#39801823)
There is always a first entity to start any market and always a last one to exit it. So technically it happens thousand of times per day. Surely it’s not illegal. I could decide to sell a completely useless crocodile-alike decorative robot companion for programmers that includes a powerful GPU that finetune your toy language model of choice or mine crypto when the GPU is not used as a robot. It would be silly, and I’d never actually do it, but surely the FCC or justice department wouldn’t have a problem with it.
Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by nodamage on Sunday March 24, 2024 @02:37AM (#39805476)
> Monopolies and monopolistic practices are flatly illegal.

You are mistaken.

Section 2 of the Sherman Act makes it unlawful for a company to "monopolize, or attempt to monopolize," trade or commerce. As that law has been interpreted, it is not illegal for a company to have a monopoly, to charge "high prices," or to try to achieve a monopoly position by what might be viewed by some as particularly aggressive methods. The law is violated only if the company tries to maintain or acquire a monopoly through unreasonable methods. For the courts, a key factor in determining what is unreasonable is whether the practice has a legitimate business justification.

https://www.ftc.gov/advice-guidance/competition-guidance/gui...