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Re:Vernor Vinge (1944-2024) by atemerev on Thursday March 21, 2024 @04:45AM (#39776122)
Reasoned decisions (if you think that empire building is reasonable) without morality and empathy _are_ evil. This is how Putin operates.

Also, raping and torturing are very "evil for the sake of evil", if you ask me.

Re:Vernor Vinge (1944-2024) by smogcutter on Thursday March 21, 2024 @08:03AM (#39777460)
Yeah, discovering Nau’s chamber of horrors is meant to strip any illusions about his motivations.
Re:Vernor Vinge (1944-2024) by Voultapher on Thursday March 21, 2024 @08:30AM (#39777696)
Book spoilers.

IIRC wasn't it the chamber/ship of someone he worked with, that he tolerated? Read it like six or seven years ago, so the details are fuzzy. The impression I kept was that he did a lot of evil stuff not because he relished the suffering he created in others, but because he didn't mind it.

Re:Vernor Vinge (1944-2024) by vvillena on Thursday March 21, 2024 @09:33AM (#39778333)
Yes, it was not his chamber, but Nau never wanted one because he kept a pet in the open.
Re:Vernor Vinge (1944-2024) by int_19h on Thursday March 21, 2024 @03:01PM (#39782932)
It's both. On one hand, he is aware that one of his valued subordinates "needs" to regularly murder people, and doesn't consider it an issue so long as that subordinate remains productive and is kept in check to avoid "wasting resources".

But there's also a record of him personally torturing and raping one of the captives for the sake of it - which he keeps around, presumably to rewatch every now and then.

Re:Vernor Vinge (1944-2024) by smogcutter on Friday March 22, 2024 @01:03AM (#39787613)
Thats right, I forgot about Nau’s enforcer (whose name escapes me atm).

Anyway I think the point remains - after that point, the reader is meant to understand that the emergents self-serving justifications are just that.