Re:Electric car battery prices are going back down faster th...
by jjtheblunt on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @11:47PM
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Right: it’s not conceptually complex and Tesla, as i mentioned, shows such.
The parent comment to which i replied was listing significant systems in an EV, and hadn’t mentioned thermal regulation.
BMW’s outsourced Vitesco (part of Continental Power Trains originally) design differs in engineering (materials, components integration), with more disjoint components and more components therefore needing interconnections, and had cars (service bulletins applied to thousands) across Finland, Germany, Canada, US, UK, failing and leaking in a juncture not present on the Tesla design. (“Ask me how I know…twice.”)
Re:Electric car battery prices are going back down faster th...
by bryanlarsen on Thursday March 21, 2024 @09:20AM
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The complexity and ingenuity in the Tesla heat pump system is the octovalve, not the heat pump. 8 different places to source/sink heat, with different set points. Keep the battery, motor, interior each at different optimal temperatures with a single heat pump.
Re:Electric car battery prices are going back down faster th...
by jjtheblunt on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:29PM
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Yep. the non octovalve complex of separate valves and tubes between is where the BMW outsourced design failed.
There are videos of hobbyists making heat pumps from compressors salvaged out of fridges or ice makers, and other scrounged parts, maybe an Arduino controlling it! They're amazingly simple when you see what they're made up of.
Sure, it sounds like there were problems with this system used in BMWs, but that's likely just a design issue. Pumping a coolant around a battery and then through a heat exchanger (that is part of the heat pump) is not that difficult compared to the cooling of an extremely complex internal combustion engine!