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Re:EPA bans asbestos, a deadly carcinogen still in use decad... by refurb on Monday March 18, 2024 @11:06PM (#39752560)
The US is actually the leader here, but typical of the discourse on HN, people love to promote their own ideas above facts.

This ban eliminates immediately all use in the US, including chlorine plants.

The 2005 EU “ban” on asbestos has an exception for chlorine plants. This will eventually be phased out in 1 July 2025.

Jeeze EU, get with the times! Why does the US have to demonstrate the right path before you take it? /s

https://chemycal.com/news/e6b71d43-1892-454c-80a9-740207f556...

Re:EPA bans asbestos, a deadly carcinogen still in use decad... by Skgqie1 on Monday March 18, 2024 @11:52PM (#39752786)
Asbestos has been completely banned in Australia since 2003.
Re:EPA bans asbestos, a deadly carcinogen still in use decad... by stevejb on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @02:33AM (#39753424)
Australia also probably has some of the worst deployments of asbestos in the developed world. Drive around even nice neighborhoods in Sydney and you’ll see plenty of cracking and breaking “fibro”, a cement asbestos sheet. Canberra is full of asbestos. They had to completely remove an asbestos mining town (Wittenoom) from the map because it was so contaminated.

There is a ton of asbestos currently in Australian households. Plenty of aussies drink water collected in tanks off of asbestos cement roofs.

Re:EPA bans asbestos, a deadly carcinogen still in use decad... by Skgqie1 on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @08:44AM (#39755128)
Yes - unfortunately we have a lot of leftover usages of asbestos.

Historically, it was used a lot. My father even remembers playing around in the bush as a kid, and using asbestos for chalk a bunch of time to mark stuff on trees. My friends dad also remembers coming home covered in asbestos after work a bunch of times too.

I'm not sure I agree with your assessment about seeing asbestos in nice neighbourhoods. It depends how you define nice.

Asbestos was banned in 2003,but hasn't been used in housing since the 80s, so it's only going to be in older developments that you'll really encounter it.

Your wording regarding "plenty of Aussies" is also unclear to me. The numbers as a percentage are going to be very low, but it undoubtedly is a thing.

Re:EPA bans asbestos, a deadly carcinogen still in use decad... by stevejb on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @11:06AM (#39756484)
I was visiting a relative in their $3M+ house in Bronte and saw plenty of it. Not in the front facades of the homes, but drive through the back alleys, and you can spot some in < 1 min. I remember an uncle there who's neighbor had a fibro cement mail box which was built into some stone work.

I agree my usage of "plenty" was more in absolute terms. It is probably thousands to tens of thousands, which is small in percentage terms. I also spent a lot of time on Australian farms, and they have lots of asbestos sheets buried in places. Most farmers would rather pile it up or bury it then pay the costs of having it removed properly.

Re:EPA bans asbestos, a deadly carcinogen still in use decad... by naet on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @12:59AM (#39753074)
The new ban does not immediately eliminate all use in the US, it allows up to twelve years from now (depending on number of facilities) for companies to phase out their usage, including chlorine plants.
Re:EPA bans asbestos, a deadly carcinogen still in use decad... by refurb on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @02:44AM (#39753462)
Not that I care about downvotes, but it’s interesting that posting actual facts, correcting a highly upvoted false comment, gets you down-votes.
Re:EPA bans asbestos, a deadly carcinogen still in use decad... by irviss on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @09:44AM (#39755664)
It's because you come off as the typical arrogant american.
Re:EPA bans asbestos, a deadly carcinogen still in use decad... by refurb on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @10:52PM (#39762484)
And the comment I replied to came across as the typical “America bad” stereotype.

Yet it’s heavily upvoted?

Re:EPA bans asbestos, a deadly carcinogen still in use decad... by happytiger on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @09:50PM (#39762205)
We’re both wrong. Apparently Australia is the actual leader.