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Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by dt3ft on Monday March 18, 2024 @09:22AM (#39744093)
Writing code by typing on a keyboard will be just a hobby?

Sure, and who is supposed to understand the code written by AI when we retire? Since writing code by typing on a keyboard will apparently cease to exist, who will write prompts for an AI and put the code together?

Person: Hey AI, build me a website that does a, b and c.

AI: Here you go.

Person: Looks like magic to me, what do I do with all this text?

AI: Push it to Git and deploy it to a web server.

Person: What is a web server? What is a Git?

AI: ... let me google that for you.

Yeah, I'm just not seeing it play down as in the conversation above.

Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by margorczynski on Monday March 18, 2024 @09:30AM (#39744208)
> Sure, and who is supposed to understand the code written by AI when we retire?

Why someone would need to? Do the product/business people who order creating something understand how it is done and what is Git, a webserver etc.? It is based on trust and if you can show the AI system can consistently achieve at least humanlike quality and speed on almost any development task then there is no need to have a technical person in the loop.

Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by guappa on Monday March 18, 2024 @09:47AM (#39744463)
So there could never be a new provider or a new protocol because AI wouldn't be able to use them or create them.

You can just make websites on pre-approved list.

Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by margorczynski on Monday March 18, 2024 @11:12AM (#39745648)
> So there could never be a new provider or a new protocol because AI wouldn't be able to use them or create them

On what do you base this? Is there some upper bound to the potential in AI reasoning that bounds it skill to creating anything more complex? I think it is on the contrary - it is humans who are bound by our biological and evolutionary hard limits, the machine is not.

Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by guappa on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @05:01AM (#39753959)
Show me 2 AIs talking to each other and agreeing on a protocol and successfully both implementing it on their side in a way that it works then.
Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by margorczynski on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @06:07AM (#39754272)
Where did I say that is the current state of its capabilities? My argument was about the future and the perspective on its skills.
Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by guappa on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:24AM (#39763633)
If we are writing a scifi novel, sure.

If we mean that the current way of doing things will lead to that… I have strong doubts.

Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by FreeFull on Monday March 18, 2024 @10:01AM (#39744682)
Presumably, the AI would have access to just do all the git and web server stuff for you.. The bigger problem I see would be if the AI just refuses to give you what you ask for.

Person: I want A

AI: Here's B

Person: No, I wanted A

AI: I'm sorry. Let me correct that... Here's B

.. ad nauseum.

Or alternatively:

Person: <reasonable request>

AI: I'm sorry, I can't do that

Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by Oioioioiio on Monday March 18, 2024 @12:49PM (#39746830)
Have you seen devin the ai developer demo?

Business already doesn't know what security is, they will jump head first into everything which allows them to get rid of those weird developer dudes which they have to cater to and give a lot of money.

I personally would also assume that there might be a new programming language AI will invent. Something faster, more optimized for AI.

Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by dt3ft on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:29AM (#39763408)
Scripted? Did you get access to it? I’ll believe it when I try it hands-on.
Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by Oioioioiio on Thursday March 21, 2024 @07:22AM (#39777179)
I already coded a few times with chatgpt (4). Devin doesn't has to be perfect but its clear (in my opinion) that this will become better and better faster than we think.

GPT-5 will tell us in summer were we at

Re:Thoughts on the Future of Software Development by int_19h on Monday March 18, 2024 @04:57PM (#39749921)
Don't worry, it'll spin up a git repo and an instance for you, as well.

How stable and secure all of this will be though is another question. A rhetorical one.

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