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Re:Why Are There Suddenly So Many Car Washes? by coldtea on Sunday March 17, 2024 @10:53PM (#39740142)
>this is just another instance of how low property taxes and the absence of land value taxes massively benefits low-value businesses

Thank god we haven't optimized that fully. This is how small businesses like local cafes, delis, bookstores, and "mom and pop" stores are able to survive in cities.

I wouldn't want to live in any capitalist shit-hole where land value taxes force high-value businesses.

Re:Why Are There Suddenly So Many Car Washes? by 3weeksearlier on Sunday March 17, 2024 @11:13PM (#39740228)
I used to live in an expensive/touristy area that became more so over time, and it was annoying how every unique shop that closed get replaced by a fancy clothing store.
Re:Why Are There Suddenly So Many Car Washes? by lmm on Monday March 18, 2024 @01:00AM (#39740659)
> This is how small businesses like local cafes, delis, bookstores, and "mom and pop" stores are able to survive in cities.

Nonsense. Those aren't the businesses that take up masses of land - hell, a lot of the best of those are run by people who live above the store, meaning the extra land use is zero. The businesses that benefit from a lack of land value tax are parking lots, drive thrus, distribution centres, that sort of thing.

Re:Why Are There Suddenly So Many Car Washes? by coldtea on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @04:31AM (#39753864)
>Nonsense

How about starting with the actual argument to make it less rude?

>Those aren't the businesses that take up masses of land

Which is neither here, not there. They are still types of businesses gravely affected by high property taxes and land value taxes (the parent even spells it out: "low property taxes and generous loan terms" (...) primarily benefited small businesses, individuals, etc"), and are also what the parent calls "low-value business" (low monetary value, of course).

Re:Why Are There Suddenly So Many Car Washes? by lmm on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @06:07AM (#39754269)
> They are still types of businesses gravely affected by high property taxes and land value taxes

Don't conflate two very different things. A business is affected by land value taxes to the extent that it uses expensive land (that's the point). A business that takes up zero land, such as one that can be run from the same building you live in, ipso facto pays zero land value tax.

Re:Why Are There Suddenly So Many Car Washes? by coldtea on Tuesday March 19, 2024 @07:07AM (#39754570)
>A business that takes up zero land, such as one that can be run from the same building you live in, ipso facto pays zero land value tax.

Local bookstores, delis, cafes, specialty shops, and so on, (a) use "expensive land", and (b) are not, usually, run "from the same building you live in".

I'm not talking about rural shops (those are a whole other thing, and die due to other reasons, like the economic decline and abandoment of rural areas).

I'm talking about beloved shops in major cities, replaced by expensive real estate getting them demolished to build whatever luxury mega-crap, and driving up rents contributing to gentrification.

Re:Why Are There Suddenly So Many Car Washes? by lmm on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:39AM (#39775473)
> Local bookstores, delis, cafes, specialty shops, and so on, (a) use "expensive land", and (b) are not, usually, run "from the same building you live in".

Living over a shop like that is normal where I live, which is far from rural; I've been to many small cafes and similar that were clearly someone's (barely) converted home. Of course if you have dumb zoning it may make that impossible, but, uh, don't do that then.

> I'm talking about beloved shops in major cities

So what's over those shops if not living space?

> replaced by expensive real estate getting them demolished to build whatever luxury mega-crap, and driving up rents contributing to gentrification

"gentrification" is a spook. Making a place nicer is a good thing. The only reason nice places are unaffordable is because you build too few of them.