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Re:Seattle Law Mandating Higher Delivery Driver Pay Is a Dis... by AnarchismIsCool on Saturday March 16, 2024 @10:04PM (#39731294)
Gonna dump some hard truths here.

You don't have a fundamental right to having someone else pick up your latte.

Food delivery has very little economic value. Yes it saves you a small amount of time but the people doing it aren't somehow more efficient at it and their labor can't then be allocated to anything that does provide an efficiency.

If you want to reduce the amount of time it takes you to get food you should stop fighting mixed zoning and start supporting the construction of walkable communities.

The problem isn't that there aren't enough people willing to make slave wages to hand deliver a burger to you, it's that the burger is in a strip mall five miles away across an eight lane highway.

Re:Seattle Law Mandating Higher Delivery Driver Pay Is a Dis... by kortilla on Saturday March 16, 2024 @10:14PM (#39731341)
If it was a “hard truth”, it wouldn’t need a law forcing it into existence.
Re:Seattle Law Mandating Higher Delivery Driver Pay Is a Dis... by crooked-v on Saturday March 16, 2024 @10:57PM (#39731532)
Economic efficiency isn't automatic. An obvious example would be slavery in the US, which was a tremendous economic drag for everyone except the slaveholders specifically and still required a civil war to even nominally remove.
Re:Seattle Law Mandating Higher Delivery Driver Pay Is a Dis... by kortilla on Saturday March 16, 2024 @11:52PM (#39731798)
It’s not a “hard truth” if it wasn’t true until a law that just passed in one city.
Re:Seattle Law Mandating Higher Delivery Driver Pay Is a Dis... by AnarchismIsCool on Saturday March 16, 2024 @10:59PM (#39731540)
That's...the point of a law...

Hard truth: running over people you deeply hate with your car isn't ok.

Re:Seattle Law Mandating Higher Delivery Driver Pay Is a Dis... by drewcoo on Sunday March 17, 2024 @12:56AM (#39732029)
On the contrary, if it were easy to accept (not "hard"), it wouldn't need any enforcement.
Re:Seattle Law Mandating Higher Delivery Driver Pay Is a Dis... by edanm on Sunday March 17, 2024 @04:01AM (#39732734)
> Yes it saves you a small amount of time but the people doing it aren't somehow more efficient at it and their labor can't then be allocated to anything that does provide an efficiency.

For the record, them being more efficient at it than you has nothing to do with it. This is one of the insights of economics that many people don't know about - the principle of comparative advantage.

> You don't have a fundamental right to having someone else pick up your latte.

People should have a fundamental right to agree to a business transaction without it being anyone else's business. If someone wants to pick up my latte and I want to pay for it, it's our fundamental right to agree to that exchange.

> If you want to reduce the amount of time it takes you to get food you should stop fighting mixed zoning and start supporting the construction of walkable communities.

Eh. Maybe that works for some cases, but food delivery is still important in many situations - people who have mobility issues (handicaps or just age), people who have kids and can't just walk around with them easily this second, etc.