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Re:FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Pr... by JumpCrisscross on Friday March 15, 2024 @04:29PM (#39720371)
> it looks like the main crime in such cases is the failure/crash itself not the cheating/scamming/etc. before it

The stealing caused the crash.

Re:FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Pr... by trhway on Friday March 15, 2024 @04:43PM (#39720510)
The question is why the stealing is allowed to go for that long and massive and pretty much in the open until it results in the crash.
Re:FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Pr... by JumpCrisscross on Friday March 15, 2024 @04:53PM (#39720603)
> question is why the stealing is allowed to go for that long and massive and pretty much in the open before the crash

FTX was unregulated. The people giving Bankman-Fried never bothered to ask questions, so there was literally nobody looking over his shoulder. Until the problems became apparent, it wasn’t anyone’s concern.

Madoff is more complicated, but it remains that he ran a lightly-regulated private fund. (And the banks that looked the other way paid dearly for it.)

Re:FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Pr... by trhway on Friday March 15, 2024 @05:16PM (#39720804)
>FTX was unregulated. The people giving Bankman-Fried

They were giving money either as donation - regulated, or as payment for services and goods - regulated, or as deposits - regulated, or as investment - regulated. Probably the only way it could have been unregulated if it were as gift, which it obviously wasn't.

>he ran a lightly-regulated private fund.

and everybody thought that he is "lightly" (if it can be applied to tens of billions of dollars) cheating like front-running or something like this, and they let him that "light cheating" for years and tens of billions of dollars until the crash.