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Re:More options for apps distributed in the European Union by nerdjon on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @12:46PM (#39681694)
And again we are back to the developers and not the users, thank you for proving my initial point here.

I am the user that doesn't want to be taken advantage of by developers who choose to engage in dark patterns.

I frankly don't care how much of a cut Apple takes from payments. Just like I don't care about how much my grocery store uncharges, I don't care what Steam, Xbox, Playstation, or any other marketplace charges.

That isn't on me as the User. I want an experience that I am not at the mercy of developers who have been known to employ dark patterns. This isn't a theoretical thing, it is very much a thing.

That is my problem here. This is NOT about choice for users, this about choice for developers. Meaning my options are being removed from me...

Re:More options for apps distributed in the European Union by ryanjshaw on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @12:51PM (#39681771)
> I frankly don't care how much of a cut Apple takes from payments.

Then you're being disingenuous. The root cause of the problem is Apple, not the developers. You can't just ignore it. The developers are behaving rationally within the rules controlled by Apple. I don't understand how you don't see this.

Re:More options for apps distributed in the European Union by nerdjon on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @01:13PM (#39682088)
The root cause for DEVELOPERS is Apple.

You keep repeating my problem with this and proving my point.

My problem is that all of the focus on this is on developers and not the users.

The key reason I bought my iPhone as a USER is because of the restrictions put in place on the App Store by Apple.

Do you see the difference?

I fully understand why Developers don't like these restrictions. I am saying I don't care because again, as the user those restrictions are a positive for me.

Re:More options for apps distributed in the European Union by ragazzina on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @02:03PM (#39695031)
Many different users want many different things. In your case, Apple's incentives align with yours. In my case, I want to be able to install what I want on my +1000$ device.

Apple could make all of its users happy, and it decides not to.