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Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by tivert on Monday March 11, 2024 @05:07PM (#39673244)
> That quandary has made the Netherlands a test case for Europe as it grapples with the question of what to do with far-right forces that have advanced so far into the mainstream that they can hardly be considered on the fringe anymore.

The solution is pretty simple: officially ban the far-right parties and politicians, if the voters fail to get the message to not vote for them. If a national government is captured, and the minority parties cannot fix the problem, then the EU needs to step in and return things to normalcy. Democracy dies if the voters can actually give power to fringe forces outside the mainstream.

Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by class3shock on Monday March 11, 2024 @05:17PM (#39673334)
The government does things people don't want, those people vote for politicians that say they won't do those things, and the response should be to ban them... and somehow that isn't the death of democracy?
Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by harvey9 on Monday March 11, 2024 @05:10PM (#39673272)
Or tell the voters they're stupid. That seemed to work for the UK's Remain campaign.
Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by systemstops on Monday March 11, 2024 @05:38PM (#39673521)
Democracy died with mass immigration. The people didn't want it and it permanently changed the electorate, replacing the voice of the people with a new voice.
Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by gustavus on Monday March 11, 2024 @05:11PM (#39673276)
A case of Poe's law in action.

"We must destroy democracy to save democracy."

EDIT:

The OP strikes me as the kind of guy that would side with a group of religious extremists trying to unilaterally execute the democratically elected head of government because "He's too dangerous to be left alive." during the middle of a civil war.

Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by cpr on Monday March 11, 2024 @05:14PM (#39673308)
Sure, ban the people you disagree with. That's a good, practical solution with no unintended consequences.

Oh, wait, now you're the fascist.

Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by chrismcb on Monday March 11, 2024 @05:34PM (#39673485)
"Democracy dies if the voters can actually give power..." I don't think democracy means what you think it means. Democracy dies if you take power away from the voters, which is what you seen to be suggesting.
Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by paleotrope on Monday March 11, 2024 @06:15PM (#39673852)
Protect democracy from the demos.
Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by _3u10 on Monday March 11, 2024 @05:18PM (#39673350)
Exactly, you can’t have people voting for popular things. Doing what the majority want is not democracy.
Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by ragebol on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @02:53AM (#39676818)
That won't make the sentiment go away. Over the last years, we've had various right-wing parties getting a lot of votes as the next savior of right-wing voter: FvD, then BBB and now again PVV. FvD became conspiracy loonies, BBB votes also shifted to PVV.

The problems that his voters have will somehow need to be addressed. However, I expect that once Wilders is in power, he also can't solve the problems (for example: building lots of housing is not something a politician can do, especially when you shun immigrants who can solve the labor part of that) and the disillusioned voters will have to find someone else, if they are smart enough to recognize this instead of hailing Wilders as a saint who can do no wrong (and instead blame everything on who is not in power)

Re:A Dutch Quandary Offers a Glimpse of a Deepening Problem ... by hackeraccount on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @09:09AM (#39679021)
Literally cannot tell if you're serious or if this is satire.

As an off topic comment I know people who write stuff that has this sort of confusion and invariably the one's writing satire congratulate themselves on a job well done. I disagree with that assessment.