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Re:What Extropic Is Building by pclmulqdq on Monday March 11, 2024 @04:12PM (#39672730)
I make a better RNG right now (https://arbitrand.com).

We experimented on doing ML training with it, but it's not clear that it trains any better than a non-broken PRNG. It might be fun to feed the output into stable diffusion and see how cool the pictures are, though.

Re:What Extropic Is Building by winwang on Monday March 11, 2024 @05:54PM (#39673674)
Cloud RNG number streaming is interesting but costly, no? I did have the idea to serve truly random numbers via a quantum computer (trivial by just preparing the simplest state and measuring). Anything else can't be said to be truly random.
Re:What Extropic Is Building by pclmulqdq on Monday March 11, 2024 @06:09PM (#39673805)
You don't need a quantum computer to sample noise from quantum processes.

It's a prohibitively expensive way to go, and depending on how you built the quantum computer, it may be more susceptible to interference and non-quantum noise than using good circuits and custom systems.

Re:What Extropic Is Building by winwang on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @02:52AM (#39676817)
Oh sure, it was more of a joke app idea, or in another sense, for those who want philosophically "perfect" randomness. After all, assuming a single bit sample, anything but a hadamard state has nonoptimal entropy. Of course, it makes almost no sense to sample a bit at a time since we want pragmatism. But having a virtual coin flip essentially "create" a new, nonexistent bit of information in the universe -- that's funny (well, assuming certain interpretations of QM).
Re:What Extropic Is Building by zX41ZdbW on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:37PM (#39675622)
The website has a picture https://arbitrand.com/fpga.png but it is difficult to understand what it represents. Needs clarification.
Re:What Extropic Is Building by typon on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @01:40AM (#39676507)
That looks like the placement of their circuit on the FPGA. Like a screenshot from ChipPlanner in Quartus