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Re: by incognos on Thursday March 07, 2024 @05:13AM (#39627234)
What nuance and context? It is simple and the facts are plain to see:

- Israel has occupied Palestine since 1948. As an occupier they cannot be outside their territory. This is not war but collective punishment. - Israel controls the daily lives of all Palestinians - they control where they go, where they live and what they can eat. (https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-counted-calorie-require...) - Prior to Oct 7th, Gaza was subjected to airstrikes and numerous people were killed (https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/seven-lies-a...) (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/7/timeline-israels-att...)

Prior to making unfounded statements, might I suggest you become informed? -

Re: by bawolff on Thursday March 07, 2024 @07:15AM (#39628128)
> Prior to making unfounded statements, might I suggest you become informed?

> Israel has occupied Palestine since 1948

Perhaps you should check your dates before calling people misinformed. Gaza was occupied by Egypt until 1967.

Re: by incognos on Thursday March 07, 2024 @08:39AM (#39628895)
For the record, you do not have to occupy 100% to be an occupier. If you push the current residents out of their own homes and lands and occupy said land, you are an occupier regardless of the amount of land you occupy.

The fact still stands, Israel has occupied Palestine since 1948.

Also a fact, Israel invented terrorism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing)

Re: by bavell on Thursday March 07, 2024 @10:18AM (#39630129)
Interesting, do you think illegal immigrants are occupiers? By your definition it would seem so.
Re: by incognos on Thursday March 07, 2024 @11:30AM (#39630999)
If said illegal/legal immigrants took up arms, killed my population and declared a separate state in what was my state, then yes. But people crossing a border illegally just makes them immigrants without immigration approval.
Re: by madsmith on Thursday March 07, 2024 @09:40AM (#39629626)
Just leaving this here without making simplistic claims of what constitutes a fact.

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_terrorism)

Re: by incognos on Thursday March 07, 2024 @11:34AM (#39631035)
My bad, I meant modern terrorism.

As a footnote, dynamite, which is used in terroristic endeavours, was invented by Alfred Nobel, the founder of the Nobel Peace Prize...