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Re: by prmoustache on Thursday March 07, 2024 @03:50AM (#39626705)
> Essentially that implies Israel will get shot at and not be allowed to shoot back. I suspect most Israelis would find that unreasonable. Israeli civilians don't like being killed anymore than Palestinian civilians do.

We are talking about Gaza. The only Israelis being shot there are Israeli militari attacking the Gaza strip.

If you are talking missiles, well Israel should abandon the colonies and create a no man's land where no civilian, be it Israeli or Palestinian, can go, and only shoot those that trespass.

If you are talking missiles, Israel has air defense systems.

Re: by bawolff on Thursday March 07, 2024 @04:01AM (#39626786)
> We are talking about Gaza. The only Israelis being shot there are Israeli militari attacking the Gaza strip.

What exactly do you think happened on oct 7?

> If you are talking missiles, well Israel should abandon the colonies and create a no man's land where no civilian, be it Israeli or Palestinian, can go, and only shoot those that trespass.

They did do that to Gaza in 2005. That is how we arrived at the current situation.

Re: by GordonS on Thursday March 07, 2024 @04:48AM (#39627082)
> They did do that to Gaza in 2005. That is how we arrived at the current situation.

No, they didn't "do that to Gaza" - Israel has kept Gaza under a brutal blockade, by air, land and sea. Israel kept the place like an open air prison, and had it surrounded by military outposts and remotely operated guns. Hundreds of civilians were shot in 2023 prior to Oct 7th, including peaceful protesters.

Re: by bawolff on Thursday March 07, 2024 @06:53AM (#39627965)
The person i was responding to didn't say israel should stop the blockade. They said israel should dismantle their colonies. Which they did in Gaza in 2005. There are no colonies currently in gaza.

It should also be noted that the blockade happened in 2007, so there was a 2 year period there. In any case, the israeli withdrawl is one of the key historical facts that lead to the current geopolitical context.

Re: by GordonS on Thursday March 07, 2024 @07:02AM (#39628028)
> They said israel should dismantle their colonies

Sure, but the implication was that Gazans were then "free" with self-determination; I wanted to point out that the situation is not so clear-cut.

Re: by prmoustache on Thursday March 07, 2024 @05:19AM (#39627259)
> They did do that to Gaza in 2005. That is how we arrived at the current situation.

It can't work if you don't let palestinians space to live.