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Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by gedy on Monday March 04, 2024 @11:59AM (#39592696)
> you’ve all imbibed to lower your inhibitions and get a little sloppy/loose, and the next day you see that you’re still accepted and part of the group.

In west coast tech companies with young people of both sexes, I absolutely refuse to drink due to not wanting to be accused of harassment or inappropriate behavior. I'm not a creep, but am older and not really attractive and am treated to a different standard.

Sounds paranoid but have had coworkers accused, penalized, or fired after these events.

Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by parpfish on Monday March 04, 2024 @01:50PM (#39594323)
i don't know... if getting a bit of a buzz leads to you doing things that are interpreted as inappropriate, maybe there's some bigger underlying issues about understanding what's appropriate.
Re:Why Do East Asian Firms Value Drinking? by gedy on Monday March 04, 2024 @05:06PM (#39596781)
Well the OP mentioned "lower your inhibitions and get a little sloppy/loose", and I mention double standards depending on the person.

I've seen outings in Asia where there's lots of non-sexual touching, arm around shoulders etc, and yet that would be like insta-problem between sexes on the west coast. Getting buzzed means you aren't on high alert for this sort of thing, hence I'll nope out of putting myself in this situation.