Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-profit for OpenAI [pdf]

Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by sanxiyn on Friday March 01, 2024 @09:11PM (#39569178)

I am unsure. You can't (for example) fine tune over API. Is anything safe for Microsoft to fine tune really safe for Russia, CCP, etc. to fine tune? Open weight (which I think is more accurate term than open source here) models enable both much more actors and much more actions than the current status.

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Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by pclmulqdq on Friday March 01, 2024 @10:44PM (#39569611)

You can fine tune over the API. Also, Russia and the CCP likely have the model weights. They probably have spies in OpenAI or Microsoft with access to the weights.

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Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by WanderPanda on Saturday March 02, 2024 @12:11AM (#39570026)

Interesting thought experiment! How would they best take advantage of the weights and what would be signs/actions that we could observe that signal it is likely they have the weights?

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Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by simfree on Saturday March 02, 2024 @05:42PM (#39576433)

We know Microsoft experienced a full breach of Office 365/Microsoft 365 and Azure infrastructure by a nation state actor: https://www.imprivata.com/blog/strengthening-security-5-less...

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Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by HeavyStorm on Saturday March 02, 2024 @02:29AM (#39570683)

I don't think such speculation would _hold in court_

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Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by pclmulqdq on Saturday March 02, 2024 @10:56AM (#39573355)

A quick Google search has confirmed that Microsoft has confirmed at least the Russia part:

https://www.cyberark.com/resources/blog/apt29s-attack-on-mic...

It's very hard to argue that when you give 100,000 people access to materials that are inherently worth billions, none of them are stealing those materials. Google has enough leakers to conservative media of all places that you should suspect that at least one Googler is exfiltrating data to China, Russia, or India.

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Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by petre on Saturday March 02, 2024 @10:23AM (#39573120)

They'll train it on Xi Jingping Thought so that the people of China can move on with their lives and use the Xi bot instead of wasting precious man hours actually studying the texts.

The Russians will obviously use it to spread Kremlin's narratives on the Internet in all languages, including Klingon and Elvish.

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