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Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by phantomathkg on Friday March 01, 2024 @12:56AM (#39558967)
Are you seriously trying to argue that the China/Russia is better than US when it comes to...foreign policy?
Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by graphe on Friday March 01, 2024 @01:12AM (#39559042)
In regards to Africa, China is indisputably better than the US at foreign policy as a fact.

Check out the passport rankings to see who objectivity has the best foreign relations. https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php surprised to see Syria and Pakistan lower than "Palestinian territories".

Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by oezi on Friday March 01, 2024 @01:21AM (#39559096)
China isn't better. They just do colonialism 2.0 with their investments and debt-based diplomacy. The don't care one bit about a single African life.
Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by lmm on Friday March 01, 2024 @01:58AM (#39559296)
Even if they're doing it for selfish reasons, 10 years of Chinese business has done more to lift the continent out of poverty than 30+ years of Western NGOs.
Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by csomar on Friday March 01, 2024 @01:30AM (#39559140)
I don’t think he meant the Chinese were generous in Africa but just better than the Westerners. I’d take debt and infra over poverty and bombs any time of day.
Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by seanmcdirmid on Friday March 01, 2024 @02:21AM (#39559427)
It’s weird because the west still invests way more in Africa than China does, but Chinese investments get more attention. Even America is investing around 3X what China is investing, and it isn’t just make work for American companies like Chinese investment is. See https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases... vs http://www.sais-cari.org/chinese-investment-in-africa#:~:tex....

Chinese missiles and bombs are also making headway in africa as China keeps growing its military arms exports. Nigeria and Angola are ts 2nd and 3rd largest buyers after Pakistan.

https://chinapower.csis.org/china-global-arms-trade/#:~:text....

Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by csomar on Friday March 01, 2024 @05:29AM (#39560461)
I am a bit puzzled. The second link you posted shows that China is investing way more than the US (which is actually divesting for the last few years). For arms, it's still a too low of an amount to make a difference.
Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by 15457345234 on Friday March 01, 2024 @07:53AM (#39561285)
It's very weird when people post links which contradict their text.

I usually block people that do that, because I find a quick trawl through their comment history often reveals they're deliberately spreading misinformation and/or gaslighting.

Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by seanmcdirmid on Friday March 01, 2024 @09:15AM (#39561961)
You are the one gaslighting. China is simply claiming that the USA invests less than they actually do.

HN doesn’t have a block function, but ya, I don’t see wolf warriors adding much to the conversation either. You guys just have a twisted view of the world and it isn’t interesting interacting with that.

Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by 15457345234 on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:56PM (#39569955)
> China is simply claiming that the USA invests less than they actually do.

So, you're refuting your own source?

You posted this source:

http://www.sais-cari.org/chinese-investment-in-africa#:~:tex...

Are you now saying it's unreliable?

Re:Nokia is replacing Huawei at Deutsche Telekom sites in Ge... by seanmcdirmid on Friday March 01, 2024 @09:14AM (#39561952)
How is 5 billion more than 14.6 billion?