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Re:Orbital reentry from 17000mph looks like dropping out of ... by Tuna-Fish on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @12:36PM (#39541179)
I disagree. Falcon 9 is an orbital booster, but only the second stage goes to orbit. The hard part is surviving re-entry, the first stage only barely requires a heat shield.

Dragon would qualify, except it lands on the ocean, so not "US soil".

Re:Orbital reentry from 17000mph looks like dropping out of ... by kragen on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @07:23PM (#39545221)
apparently the hard part is getting the control systems and landing legs simultaneously lightweight enough and reliable enough, if i correctly understand spacex's long history of failing to land rockets (which i may not, since all i know is a small sample of what they've published)

agreed about dragon. those fuckers do orbit!

Re:Orbital reentry from 17000mph looks like dropping out of ... by Tuna-Fish on Thursday February 29, 2024 @12:02PM (#39552052)
The hard part for landing a suborbital rocket vertically is that. The hard part of landing anything from orbit is still definitely the re-entry.
Re:Orbital reentry from 17000mph looks like dropping out of ... by kragen on Thursday February 29, 2024 @03:52PM (#39554893)
oh, sorry, you're right. a few rocks do survive re-entry every day without the benefit of any engineering at all, but they have a very, very low success rate