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Re:Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitatio... by FireBeyond on Sunday February 25, 2024 @11:47PM (#39507787)
It's not overly up to me to demonstrate evidence of the opposite to disagree with your assertion. I wouldn't know where to begin. I also don't even look at HN the same way as you (the leaderboard? I wouldn't even know about its existence if you hadn't mentioned it).

Indeed, I commiserate with some of the misogynistic or sexist behavior you describe - the sexualizing of things, and such. And I also agree that women are drastically under-represented in tech, especially the higher you get up the corporate ladder. But I'm berated by you with reference to assuming I don't want change and being dismissive of critique. Disagreeing with one aspect of an assertion doesn't not give you sufficient evidence of my motivation.

> I am the only openly female member that I know of who has spent time on the leader board and I've done it twice under two different handles.

> So if the goal is "first fit in" I appear to do that better than most women.

And if you've been on the HN leaderboard, twice, you've also done far better than vast majority of the men, too, then. Despite (or in spite) of the "boy's club" keeping you down?

> And I am unable to turn it into a means to make an adequate income.

I think the proportion of people on HN that have made it into an "adequate income source" is vanishingly small. Their visibility may make it more noticeable, but I couldn't tell you the names of more than a couple of people here who have made ANY money from HN.

There's also a problematic assertion that you are somehow ... entitled ... to make money from HN. This is separate to any gender issues, too - as I said, people who tend to think of HN as a place where having a motivation for community interaction be "what can YOU do to help put food on MY table" is quickly shut down, because it quickly becomes obnoxious, no different to the recruiters sidling up to me on LinkedIn.

Re:Meta Staff Found Instagram Tool Enabled Child Exploitatio... by DoreenMichele on Monday February 26, 2024 @01:44AM (#39508244)
I didn't assume any motive on your part, actually. But people routinely take "general observation" very personally on the internet and this is a common source of conflict that is enormously hard to resolve.

I'm not too keen to continue this discussion. I didn't start by making it about me but let me make a single comment mentioning these issues and there is a huge pile of mostly openly hostile replies and if I engage, no matter how carefully and good faith, I am assumed to be the problem.

I'm not really responsible for other people here having very big feels about some comment or other of mine. If you -- the general "you," not FireBeyond in specific -- feel very strongly about my observations, maybe wonder why that is and leave me alone about it.