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Re:Why you, personally, should want a larger human population by dotancohen on Sunday February 25, 2024 @06:32PM (#39506069)
I've spoken to a few Bedouin women, though less than men. I've never heard any say that they are unhappy with the quantity of children they raise. That's their culture, why would they be unhappy?

One thing that I've heard them say they are unhappy about are the marrying of additional wives. One particular conversation was with two wives of the same man. The older wife said that she did not want her husband to marry, but over time she began to like the younger wife. In the particular case of the gardener, his first wife told him to marry because the first two children were born unhealthy.

I'd say about half the Bedouins I speak to have multiple wives.

Re:Why you, personally, should want a larger human population by lotsofpulp on Sunday February 25, 2024 @07:29PM (#39506452)
> That's their culture, why would they be unhappy?

Because you have no reason to assume they would tell you the truth, or that they are not lying even to themselves. Actions speak louder than words, and 99% of women who attain financial and physical security choose to not have 14, or even 4 kids.

Re:Why you, personally, should want a larger human population by dotancohen on Monday February 26, 2024 @03:13AM (#39508712)
You should know that any attempt to change that culture would have the international community screaming genocide.

See here:

  > Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
Re:Why you, personally, should want a larger human population by lotsofpulp on Monday February 26, 2024 @05:03AM (#39509451)
Giving women the opportunity to be self sufficient is not intending to prevent births.
Re:Why you, personally, should want a larger human population by lo_zamoyski on Monday February 26, 2024 @12:37PM (#39514264)
Quite patronizing of women.

As recently as the generation that was born before WWII, even the Boomers, were born into relatively large families. The idea that they hated having so many children would have been foreign to them. On the contrary, it gave them meaning. Family and community life was vibrant. Now, things are desolate. We live in a culture of death.

Re:Why you, personally, should want a larger human population by lotsofpulp on Monday February 26, 2024 @12:48PM (#39514429)
I am not patronizing anyone. I am just presenting statistics, and the possibilities for why they are what they are. By far, most (almost all) women who have access to financial independence, physical security, and access to contraception CHOOSE to have 0, 1, 2, or maybe 3 kids.

No one tells them they cannot have 8 or 14 kids. But after having seen what a woman goes through during pregnancy, birth, breastfeeding, and child rearing, I would easily say that I would also choose 0, 1, 2, or 3 kids. Certainly not double digits.

Re:Why you, personally, should want a larger human population by shiroiushi on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @02:16AM (#39521067)
It's amazing how conservative, religious men always think they know what women really want more than actual women do.