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Re:Every model learned by gradient descent is approximately ... by ein0p on Sunday February 25, 2024 @02:20AM (#39498422)
There is a name for this already: associative memory. That’s how you catch a ball: you condition your memory of catching a ball with proprioceptive and visual input, much like a multimodal transformer. There’s no thinking involved - you wouldn’t be able to catch it if you had to think
Re:Every model learned by gradient descent is approximately ... by vidarh on Sunday February 25, 2024 @05:09AM (#39499474)
An associative memory can model truth tables of logic circuits, and so the steps to go from associative memory to arbitrary computation pretty much requires adding state and a loop. And we do provide state and a loop. As such, while that does not prove that any given model is capable of reasoning, describing what goes on at any step as associative memory says nothing meaningful about the computational power of the wider system.

It's very possible the way we train current models will turn out to place fundamental limits on the abilities the models will have, but that will not be because the models act as associative memories.

Re:Every model learned by gradient descent is approximately ... by ein0p on Sunday February 25, 2024 @12:33PM (#39502755)
I think the current models will be a fundamental part of larger, more comprehensive models, and they will handle the “easy” parts, much like we, humans, use our associative memory to be able to do things in realtime, “without thinking”. Yann LeCun wrote a paper on this which more people should read: https://openreview.net/pdf?id=BZ5a1r-kVsf. Moreover, Meta’s research is starting to move in that direction https://ai.meta.com/blog/v-jepa-yann-lecun-ai-model-video-jo...