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Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by adastra22 on Saturday February 24, 2024 @03:43AM (#39490158)
Then she would have waited 10 months for a CT scan instead of 10 days.
Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by sjducb on Saturday February 24, 2024 @03:46AM (#39490174)
No, lung cancer CT scans happen inside a week. I know this from experience.

You might wait a year for a knee replacement.

Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by stringsandchars on Saturday February 24, 2024 @04:19AM (#39490291)
> lung cancer CT scans happen inside a week. I know this from experience.

This is such a mischaracterization of the Swedish healthcare system, which is much more a lottery than your 'personal experience' suggests.

I have my own experience of a service that is plagued by delays, inefficiency and outright dystopian suffering alongside other people who have had fast and efficient help.

It's very much the luck of the draw - although sometimes I get the impression that social standing and even 'blondeness quotient' may help to get better care.

Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by shakow on Saturday February 24, 2024 @05:07AM (#39490475)
Noone is talking about Sweden, the thread is on the UK.
Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by stringsandchars on Saturday February 24, 2024 @05:54AM (#39490659)
> Noone is talking about Sweden, the thread is on the UK

I was replying to a response that was specifically about Sweden.

> Erikun

> This was my thought exactly (I’m Swedish). It sounds so brutal, and it was not just her own but her entire family’s!

> adastra22

> Then she would have waited 10 months for a CT scan instead of 10 days.

I noticed that adastra22 was downvoted for this. I'm really not sure why, as it very closely mirrors a lot of people's experience with Swedish healthcare.

There have been a lot of stories in the news over the last couple of years, but here's just one at the top of a simple google-search, about a kid that died because their scans were postponed (in Swedish):

https://www.dagensmedicin.se/specialistomraden/cancer/barn-d...

> Due to a lack of capacity at Karolinska University Hospital, the examination of a previously cancerous child was postponed. The child subsequently died of metastatic cancer.

Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by shakow on Saturday February 24, 2024 @07:27AM (#39491015)
I'm afraid you hit the wrong ‶reply″ button.
Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by sjducb on Sunday February 25, 2024 @12:34PM (#39502766)
I’m talking about the UK. No idea about Sweden.

Regarding long waits for care. You want to be the patient who has to wait for ages. It means you’re going to be fine. You don’t want to be the person who gets rushed past the queue.

Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by primax on Saturday February 24, 2024 @04:52AM (#39490414)
I needed an abdominal CT in Australia. Got it the next day, and didn't cost me anything.

Just because the UK and Canadian systems are poorly resourced doesn't mean they can't work

Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by adastra22 on Saturday February 24, 2024 @05:56AM (#39490669)
Oh I know. Taiwans national insurance program is amazing. But this thread was about UK/Sweden.
Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by vkou on Saturday February 24, 2024 @05:58AM (#39490676)
In the last decade of his life (he passed away at 97), my grandfather has needed quite a fair bit of life-critical healthcare in BC, Canada.

At no point in his various medical emergencies did he need to wait 10 months for a CT scan... Or any other life-saving treatment.

Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by alephnerd on Saturday February 24, 2024 @10:10AM (#39492025)
The Canadian system is different and much better than the British one imo.

While both are single payer, the Canadian Medicare is federalized so Vancouver Island can target its members in a manner different than Fraser Valley.

The NHS is much more top down, and the facilities seem less updated than in Canada.

Salaries also largely kept up for medical professionals in Canada compared to the UK (and plenty of BMA members have begun moving to Canada for that reason).

When I was a kid on Vancouver Island, it wasn't uncommon to see Brits doing specialized work (eg. Doctors, Skilled labor, Civil Service) because they'd get paid way more and spend way less than in the UK.

Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by zrn900 on Saturday February 24, 2024 @12:21PM (#39493253)
She would have to do that due to the defunding of socialized healthcare in many countries to channel profits to private healthcare and make people like you say that 'Socialized healthcare doesnt work' so that they can come up later and say 'Lets privatize it'.

This is called 'strangle it then save it', and its the method that was used to privatize healthcare services in the West since the 80s. Starting with the US one...

Re:How to lose two jobs in one year by adastra22 on Saturday February 24, 2024 @01:07PM (#39493699)
You are free to believe whatever fits your narrative.

You are also free to make wild, entirely off-base assumptions about what I believe.