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Re:Gemma.cpp: lightweight, standalone C++ inference engine f... by verticalscaler on Friday February 23, 2024 @05:34PM (#39487013)
> not to mention positive articles in NYT, Verge, Fortune, etc.

> There's plenty of valid criticism, most of which we hope to address in the coming weeks and months =).

> many articles will have a negative cast because of the need for clicks

This simply comes across as, at best, spin. Given what just happened with Gemini I urge you not to communicate in this style.

> doesn't apply at all to Gemma

That would be the crux of the matter. As a sibling comment states:

> a larger unreleased version of it (Gemma) is (likely) used as part of the Gemini product

There is no reason for anybody outside Google to think otherwise, these are blackboxes.

> Ignoring that in favor of some political narrative is really petty.

You can have assume any politics you wish, the issues with Gemini have already been acknowledged by Google along with an apology.

https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-image-generation-...

  over time, the model became way more cautious than we intended and refused to answer certain prompts entirely — wrongly interpreting some very anodyne prompts as sensitive.
There is no information for me or anybody else to go on that your Gemma models are not nerfed - whether maliciously or accidentally nerfed - is immaterial.

Instead of addressing that you and you alone eventually brought it back to politics.

> We're honestly trying our best to build open models with the community

Amongst other things this requires much more trust and transparency and an altogether different communication style.

Re:Gemma.cpp: lightweight, standalone C++ inference engine f... by wokwokwok on Friday February 23, 2024 @10:35PM (#39488918)
Let it go.

You’re being flagged and downvoted on your threads because you’re being unreasonable, not because of some moderator level conspiracy.

The argument you’re making is not falsifiable.

If you want to pursue this line of argument, you need to pause, think about how you can confidently and unambiguously make substantive claims; for example, substantive examples from actually using these models.

The way you’re currently arguing is not meaningful or compelling.