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Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by legohead on Friday February 23, 2024 @04:15PM (#39486193)
I had a dumb labrador that was hard to train. Now I have a kokoni who knows 20 commands & words, and she is super easy to train. We haven't tried to test the limit of her abilities, we just ran out of things to teach her (that we cared about, at least). She never cared for toys though.

I noticed while teaching her to "speak" that she would sneeze a lot, I guess it's kind of a reflex for her when she tries to speak. So I wondered, can I teach a dog to sneeze? And sure enough, after a bit of training, she will now sneeze on command.

Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by user_7832 on Friday February 23, 2024 @04:56PM (#39486623)
> she would sneeze a lot

Btw dogs often do this to indicate they're playing/mean no harm :)

Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by raffraffraff on Saturday February 24, 2024 @02:22AM (#39489826)
I have had greyhounds and lurchers, and every one of them does it. It's not a full sneeze, I call it a "snit" because that's what it sounds like. They're large dogs, so when they're being playful, jumping around and play fighting, we sometimes tell them "no!" is they're about to knock something over. This always gets us a "snit".

The yawn thing that someone else mentioned is also common. If they are displeased with you, you get a yawn. Like if you ask them to do something (sit, paw etc) too many times and they're bored of you, you'll get an exaggerated vocal yawn.

And the last one I'll mention, because it's so common in all dogs I've seen, is the shake. Directly after a tense situation, they shake, like they do when they're drying themselves. For example, if you're walking your dog and they encounter another dog that is larger, or a breed that they don't know or don't trust, they'll sometimes do a quick shake a few seconds after the encounter. I always reward the shake with a treat, to tell them "good dog, you kept your shit together in a stressful situation". A trainer told me to do that when I had a grey who had very bad social anxiety, and it really worked.

Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by precompute on Saturday February 24, 2024 @09:56AM (#39491883)
(Human) Kids shake too! You can try it yourself, it does work.
Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by msrenee on Saturday February 24, 2024 @10:39AM (#39492296)
I've only ever seen dogs yawn on purpose as submissive/appeasing behavior. Kind of a nervous "I'm not trying to cause trouble." I'll get it from dogs if I've asked them to do too many behaviors in a row and they think it's because they haven't given me the correct one. Kind of an apology that they don't know what I want.

I see it occasionally between dogs when one is being stiff/dominant and the other yawns to kind of apologize and diffuse the situation.

Then again, I haven't worked much with sighthounds and they're basically a different species from other dogs, haha.

Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by pvaldes on Sunday February 25, 2024 @06:47PM (#39506180)
Dogs facing a strange human can react in the same way to humans deliberately yawning.
Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by qup on Friday February 23, 2024 @04:59PM (#39486653)
She sounds like my dog, who has sneezing fits a lot. The shelter said she was a shepherd/boxer mix when I adopted her, but I believe she's a mountain cur.

Either way, she's wonderful, and learned every trick I taught her in the first couple of months. She still knows them all 9 years later. She's learned a lot about me without my instruction, we just fit like a glove.

I don't have an exact count, but she knows at least 30 commands (some are for the same thing, like "wait for me" and "slow down"). I use natural language. I'm not sure how many other things she's picked up. I always tell her "be right back" if it's true, but I'm not sure if she understands it or not, because she's not an anxious dog.

She's never been that interested in food or toys. She's a farm dog. The best.

I wish they'd speed up that research on dog longevity. She's 9.

Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by cogman10 on Friday February 23, 2024 @05:47PM (#39487138)
> who has sneezing fits a lot

Sneezing is a way dogs say they want to play. That's adorable that she loves sneezing for you. [1]

[1] https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/health-and-dog-care/health/...

Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by qup on Friday February 23, 2024 @08:05PM (#39488141)
That makes sense, because it is indeed when she's excited. We play a little game where I pretend I don't know what she wants, and she gets very excited when I figure out she wants to go outside, and has a few sneezes to celebrate.
Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by draculero on Friday February 23, 2024 @07:17PM (#39487834)
I had a dog that yawned to say "no".

I don't know if she trained us or I trained her, but she associated stopping doing something with a yawn.

Don't like petting? yawn and the human will stop.

Don't like that food? yawn and we will change it.

Don't like going to the veterinary? yawn - but that never worked.

I loved that dog.

Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by bicx on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:40PM (#39489179)
I think that yawning is also something dogs do when they are frustrated. My dog does it a good bit, and that’s when I know to give her a break. Or maybe I’m just being trained too…
Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by DANmode on Saturday February 24, 2024 @01:39AM (#39489647)
It's a known anxiety response for dogs.

The hard part is most humans can't connect their own angst with their environmental conditions!

Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by cjtrowbridge on Friday February 23, 2024 @07:28PM (#39487910)
I also have a Kokoni. He has a doll that looks just like him since he was born. Sometimes he will pose it to be doing things you tell him to do that he doesn't want to do. So wild to see.
Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by teruakohatu on Friday February 23, 2024 @07:31PM (#39487920)
Do you have photos of your dog doing that?