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Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by bongodongobob on Friday February 23, 2024 @01:52PM (#39484657)
I believe it. Apparently that's how herding dogs train on farms. You just buy a puppy and it literally shadows the adult. They train themselves.
Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by RoyalHenOil on Friday February 23, 2024 @03:21PM (#39485609)
I have two koolies (an Australian herding breed that is very closely related to Australian shepherds, border collies, and kelpies). I got my older dog during the lockdowns when I had a lot of free time to train him, and I got my younger dog a couple years later, when I had much less time to train her.

The younger one has taught herself almost everything the older one knows, mostly by observing him, but sometimes by him actively trying to teach her. When she doesn't know something, he shows obvious signs of frustration and urging: I give a command, he does the thing I'm asking for, she doesn't react because she doesn't know the command, and then he starts growling and harumphing (and sometimes even air snaps near her face to get her attention) until she follows his lead.

Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by VHRanger on Friday February 23, 2024 @08:10PM (#39488179)
Herding is a self rewarding behavior for herding breeds.

You can train herding by simply stopping the herding when he messes up (negative punishment). As long as he does it correctly he keeps doing it (positive reinforcement).

For my border collie it's similar in agility. He doesn't care about treats and barely needs toys - doing the agility is the reward for learning it for him

Re:Dog 'Language Geniuses' Are Rare but Apparently Real by adishy on Friday February 23, 2024 @09:08PM (#39488481)
Transfer learning on (cute) biological neural nets!