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Re:Intel Processor Instability Causing Oodle Decompression F... by crazygringo on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:03AM (#39482283)
Is that true?

I thought the entire premise of overclocking was that it's not officially supported and it may break things.

The whole point is that you're not paying for it and it's entirely at-risk.

Because if you do want a higher level of guaranteed performance, you do need to pay for a faster chip (if it exists).

Re:Intel Processor Instability Causing Oodle Decompression F... by Kluggy on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:49AM (#39482980)
CPU manufacturers certainly hold the line you stated but motherboard venders have jumped over the line and now sell motherboards that overlock for the end user entirely transparently.

It’s fair for the end user who bought a motherboard that promises a higher clock speed to expect that clock speed.

Re:Intel Processor Instability Causing Oodle Decompression F... by crazygringo on Friday February 23, 2024 @12:37PM (#39483652)
Do these motherboards explicitly provide a warranty that covers not just damage from overclocking but also CPU errors?

If you can provide links, I'd be curious to see what guarantees they make. "What's fair" depends very specifically on what language they use.

Re:Intel Processor Instability Causing Oodle Decompression F... by Kluggy on Friday February 23, 2024 @01:14PM (#39484138)
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tu... has "ASUS Multicore Enhancement" bios setting which defaulted to Auto which is documented as "This item allows you to maximize the overclocking performance optimized by ASUS core ratio settings."

They have now entered the AI bubble with

https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/Intelligent-mothe...

MSI has a similar setting, although I don't know exactly what models have it nor what it's called

Re:Intel Processor Instability Causing Oodle Decompression F... by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Friday February 23, 2024 @12:52PM (#39483861)
From my limited knowledge the motherboard manufacturers hide behind disclaimers. Iirc even using fast ram at their rated clock speed with a cpu that does not support that speed is a warranty violation.
Re:Intel Processor Instability Causing Oodle Decompression F... by sandworm101 on Friday February 23, 2024 @12:35PM (#39483632)
Well, Ferrari also tells people not to break speed limits. But if their cars started breaking apart at 85mph they would still be blamed. This might not be warranty repair, intel is probably not liable legally, but this should have impact on their reputation: intel put out a chip that does not handle overclocking very well. Ok. I'll remember that when I am shopping for my next chip.
Re:Intel Processor Instability Causing Oodle Decompression F... by simondotau on Friday February 23, 2024 @03:54PM (#39485967)
> The whole point is that you're not paying for it

Tell that to anyone who paid extra for a K-series Intel chip.

Re:Intel Processor Instability Causing Oodle Decompression F... by me_me_me on Saturday February 24, 2024 @07:23PM (#39496408)
Nah, chips are manufactured in best version and then damaged/fused/lock to downgrade them to create cheaper version (in the same series)

Its cheaper to have a single production line and then lock off features.

As crazy as i sounds it actually cost a little bit more to produce inferior version sold at cheaper prices.

The overclocking was a 'premium' feature due to possibility of melting the chip. But nowadays the temp sensors cut power to prevent catastrophic failure.

Also worth mention the downside to upclocking voltage is increased physical degradation of cores, ie lower lifespawn of cpu.