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Re:JavaScript Bloat in 2024 by palmfacehn on Friday February 23, 2024 @01:25AM (#39477589)
To let us know we are not alone with our disdain. Too many JS enthusiasts paper over this insanity. The remnant lives on.

"But JS is the biggest developer ecosystem in the world!"

Re:JavaScript Bloat in 2024 by StressedDev on Friday February 23, 2024 @03:07AM (#39478092)
This is not a JavaScript issue. It’s a software enginner/people issue. The question is how do you get people to care about performance, security, reliability, etc.? How do you get organizations to care about these issues?

These are hard problems and people have been complaining about software size forever. Back in the early 90s, it was bloated C++ code.

You will also see that all software continues to use more ram, more disk space, more network bandwidth etc. This trend has been going on for decades.

For example, why do we use JSON as an interchange format? It’s relatively slow (i.e. creating it and parsing it is slow), nor is it is not space efficient. Back in the 1980s, the Unix community created RPC and the RPC wire formats were much more efficient because they were binary formats. The reason we use JSON is it makes the developer’s life easier and because developers prefer ease of use to performance.

Re:JavaScript Bloat in 2024 by balls187 on Friday February 23, 2024 @02:27PM (#39485037)
> The question is how do you get people to care about performance, security, reliability, etc...How do you get organizations to care about these issues?

It's very hard to, unless there is a risk to the bottom line.

Let me pose it differently--apparently ZED is ridiculously fast code editor. Do I want to switch from my vscode investment? Or will I deal with the "bloat"