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Re:The Fed Is Behind the Capital One/Discover Merger by akira2501 on Friday February 23, 2024 @12:41AM (#39477361)
> it needs to be nationalized.

I'm not sure trading three owners for one public one is the right direction to go, particularly since there are few limits to the number of providers that could be operating in this space.

The article points this out, too, that it's incredibly expensive and difficult to start a new network from the ground up. This sounds like the thing you actually want to fix.

Re:The Fed Is Behind the Capital One/Discover Merger by theturtletalks on Friday February 23, 2024 @01:00AM (#39477451)
Yes, realistically, it's not possible at this point. Ideally, it should be done so users have some sort of recourse. Visa/MC can straight up ban you from processing payments without rhyme or reason while they hide behind KYC/AML laws. The government can't hide behind these laws.
Re:The Fed Is Behind the Capital One/Discover Merger by akira2501 on Friday February 23, 2024 @01:08AM (#39477498)
> it's not possible at this point.

I think cheap and ubiquitous internet access has changed the game here significantly and it seems far easier to bring new products and technologies into the merchant space than it ever has been before.

> Visa/MC can straight up ban you from processing payments without rhyme or reason while they hide behind KYC/AML law

Yes, but if you had a dozen other providers to turn to, this may not be an issue, and may force the established players to have a more transparent policy.

> The government can't hide behind these laws.

I would consider the "No Fly List" as a terrifying example of where this naivete inevitably ends.

Re:The Fed Is Behind the Capital One/Discover Merger by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Friday February 23, 2024 @09:38AM (#39481056)
I don't think you fully grasp the ramifications here.

governments will give utilities a monopoly but with requirements such as they must service everyone regardless of profitability or they get fined all to shit.

Re:The Fed Is Behind the Capital One/Discover Merger by akira2501 on Friday February 23, 2024 @09:39PM (#39488635)
So why would any utility take that offer? Do you have an example of such a contract between state and private company that you find these terms? I'd like to take a look at the bidding process.

If the government is corrupt or corruptible (and which aren't?) then "service everyone" isn't as objective as it seems.

Meanwhile you can just force all the collective carriers to post their prices and their profits publicly or threaten them with complete loss of license to operate. This has been effective in the past and allows for a more open system with many competitors rather than a state selected contractor.

Re:The Fed Is Behind the Capital One/Discover Merger by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Monday February 26, 2024 @08:04AM (#39510830)
This is one of those cases where you don't know what you're talking about and you should stop speaking as if you're an authority here.

I love how you throw in bidding as if we're not talking about the government giving a monopoly in exchange for guarantees (it's considered a public good). This exchange of guarantees has made energy one of the most stable long term investments in a way that other investments just aren't. Gee, why would anyone take that deal?

Go educate yourself.

And go read up on Chesterton's Fence.