Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools like the Flipper Zero

Re:Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools li... by numpad0 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @05:37AM (#39465330)

Intentions sometimes matter. There is a South African shotgun aspirationally named Street Sweeper, and it's famously classified as a Destructive Device in the US, which is two levels more strictly controlled category, AIUI, IANAL, than a manually operated Gatling gun.

FZ is intended to clone keys and bypass security, I suppose in significant part for users' lawful convenience, but is kind of intended to do what it should not.

Coat hangers aren't engineered with intent to be shoved into the weather seal on a door.

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Re:Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools li... by romwell on Thursday February 22, 2024 @06:47AM (#39465779)

You can literally order lock picks on Amazon in Canada[1].

Which were absolutely engineered with Internet to be shoved into locks to open them without a key.

To be clear: purchasing ans owning lockpicks is perfectly legal in Canada [2].

I don't think your logic applies to why that legislation was introduced. They're treating Flipper as a lockpick, but legislate it differently nevertheless.

Cheap, misguided hype seems to be a more plausible explanation.

[1] https://www.amazon.ca/Professional-Accessories-Suitable-Hand...

[2] http://lockking.ca/can-i-buy-lock-picks-in-canada/

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Re:Insecure vehicles should be banned, not security tools li... by Xelynega on Thursday February 22, 2024 @08:40PM (#39475842)

> FZ is intended to clone keys and bypass security

I'd say it's more of an educational/'hacker' toy than it is a useful security bypasser/key cloner.

Purpose built(and better aot their job) those things cost significantly less. The flipper zero is a toy that the Canadian government are about to misclasify.

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