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Re:iMessage with PQ3 Cryptographic Protocol by jorvi on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @12:34PM (#39456823)
>> it’s a platform designed to aid illegal government surveillance.

> Come on.

Whilst I agree with the general skepticism, Apple didn’t add E2E encryption to (certain parts of) iCloud backups at the explicit request of the FBI.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/01/apple-reportedly...

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Re:iMessage with PQ3 Cryptographic Protocol by marcellus23 on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @12:53PM (#39457080)
That's still not the same as claiming that iMessage is designed specifically for the purpose of aiding government surveillance.
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Re:iMessage with PQ3 Cryptographic Protocol by jorvi on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:50PM (#39457826)
Not adding E2E was a conscious design decision by Apple specifically to aid surveillance.

Virtually every other big messaging service offered (optional) E2E at that point.

I’m not sure how much clearer you want it.

“Surveillance” doesn’t have to mean that Apple allowed the FBI to jack directly into the iCloud servers.

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Re:iMessage with PQ3 Cryptographic Protocol by rootusrootus on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @03:47PM (#39459309)
Wasn't it an attempt to take the fangs out of the FBI's push for encryption backdoors? As one of the largest messaging platforms in the US, what Apple does with E2E absolutely factors into public policymaking.
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