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Re:Kagi Sidekick (alpha) by Nevermark on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @05:50PM (#39448024)
Tiny Kagi has already shown an ability to produce better results than massive Google, despite them both dealing with the same SEO site gaming/structuring. Which is the reverse of what would be expected if Google's greater resources were also focused on quality.

Kagi already dodges the SEO bullet.

Disclaimer: I pay for Kagi. You should too!

Re:Kagi Sidekick (alpha) by nicce on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @06:51PM (#39448524)
> the same SEO site gaming/structuring.

This isn’t totally true. They can dodge a lot of stuff, because optimisations target Google’s algorithms, not Kagis. And Google also has conflicting intrests on same cases to let them just be.

I have paid for long time as well. But this brings new ”attack vector”, which is important to consider.

Re:Kagi Sidekick (alpha) by janfoeh on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @06:59PM (#39448569)
Paying Kagi customer here as well.

Kagi is leagues better than now-Google. It is about on par, slightly worse than the Google of yore — not by their own fault, but because they operate in a much more professionalized, difficult, hostile web.

They didn't dodge the SEO bullet — nobody has aimed at them yet.

Re:Kagi Sidekick (alpha) by laserbeam on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @11:52PM (#39450278)
If the userbase grows enough (let's say 100x that of today), they could become an SEO target. As happy as I am with the current results I am aware that SEO gaming is only a problem once scale is relevant. Once there are teams of people reverse engineering kagi's ranking explicitly wanting to beat it.

There's a good chance not enough people are willing to pay for search and this never becomes a problem.

Disclaimer: happy paying customer.