Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by Astraco on Monday February 19, 2024 @07:51AM
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AI can't suffer
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Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by rbanffy on Monday February 19, 2024 @08:01AM
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Prove you can.
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by batch12 on Monday February 19, 2024 @08:16AM
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Philosphy aside, current 'AI' can't suffer in the same way notepad can't suffer.
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by cjg on Monday February 19, 2024 @08:52AM
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Naive arguments aside, humans can't suffer in the same way a steak can't suffer.
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by batch12 on Monday February 19, 2024 @08:58AM
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Humans are alive, steaks are not. Current AI suffers as much as steak.
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by Astraco on Monday February 19, 2024 @08:25AM
(#39429474)
Prove that AI can.
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by rbanffy on Monday February 19, 2024 @02:46PM
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I'll just torture you until you prove you can.
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by Astraco on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @10:55PM
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If you can't see the difference between a live being and a piece of software who is going to suffer are you.
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by snapcaster on Monday February 19, 2024 @08:40AM
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Just had a brief vision of the not so distant future of you being held to account for this comment by superintelligent AIs
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by Astraco on Monday February 19, 2024 @09:01AM
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I support Roko's Basilisk... And so should you
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by me_me_me on Monday February 19, 2024 @08:43AM
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Suffering in humans is not limited strictly yo physical real.
If AI is self conscious, claiming its a person and is suffering.
What can you do to prove or disprove it? Nothing.
This is a brick wall of "The hard problem of consciousness" and we dont have any good ideas to solve it yet.
Not that long ago people claimed animals dont really suffer. As they are a biological machines that pretend to be hurt.
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by Astraco on Monday February 19, 2024 @09:15AM
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No, we are attributing feelings to an overglorified spreadsheet. I understand it, we have empathy, but AI is just responding to an input the way it have been trained, like other piece of software.
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by me_me_me on Monday February 19, 2024 @09:25AM
(#39430035)
you and me are a glorified spreadsheet running on wetware (brain - neural net) do you have feelings?
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by Astraco on Monday February 19, 2024 @09:31AM
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You're funny.
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by me_me_me on Monday February 19, 2024 @10:14AM
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I see... maybe you shouldn't be talking about stuff u clearly have surface level info or twitter opinion about, eh?
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by Astraco on Monday February 19, 2024 @10:35AM
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Dude, you're a spreadsheet. What are you talking about?
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by me_me_me on Monday February 19, 2024 @02:17PM
(#39433539)
holy cow, understanding a simple metaphor is too much to ask?
Re:Enforced Amnesia as Way to Mitigate Risk of Silent Suffer...
by js8 on Monday February 19, 2024 @10:34AM
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Well, in reinforcement learning, wrong outputs are inherently painful for the AI. If the system expects getting negative feedback regardless what it does, I would say it is suffering. I would also define torture as giving it negative feedback for any possible output.