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Re:Sometimes I read stories about American healthcare and fe... by astrodust on Monday May 07, 2012 @04:23PM (#3940808)
> Why can't we just fix this part?

Insurance companies. They lobby. They make it very, very hard to do anything useful.

If you think it leads to "massive conflicts of interest and corruption", then you obviously think relative to the current system. Can you find one example of a country with a more corrupt, more prohibitively expensive medical system than the US?

If you look at the various implementations of universal healthcare, of which there are dozens, you'll find varying levels of corruption, efficiency, and effectiveness, but the current US system is by far the worst in virtually every category. It is the worst possible outlier.

People shouldn't die of easily treatable medical conditions, not in this age. Most countries agree with this in principle and provide medical coverage for their people regardless of income or age. It's expected because people have worked hard to provide it for themselves collectively.

Re:Sometimes I read stories about American healthcare and fe... by sp332 on Monday May 07, 2012 @04:34PM (#3940846)
Can you find one example of a country with a more corrupt, more prohibitively expensive medical system than the US?

I'm not advocating doing nothing! I just don't think universal healthcare is the only (or best) solution.

the current US system is by far the worst in virtually every category. It is the worst possible outlier.

Exactly, even other non-universal systems have better results than what we have now. I'm not sure why "universal healthcare" is being promoted as the only possible answer.

Re:Sometimes I read stories about American healthcare and fe... by astrodust on Monday May 07, 2012 @04:46PM (#3940904)
Maybe because 7 of the 8 countries in the G8 have universal healthcare?

Why is it that the country with the largest economy in the world, with the highest per-capita GDP, is reluctant to do what other countries have long committed to?

Do you know what it's like to live in a country that has it? You see the doctor, you visit a hospital, you need tests done, you just present your health card and it's all taken care of. The only thing most people see a bill for is for their prescriptions, and even then some countries cover this, too.

When you're in a bind and rushing someone you know to the hospital because they have a life-threatening condition, the last thing you need is the shake-down at the door to see if you have the correct insurance, that you're at the correct hospital, that you've filled out the correct paperwork. There's no question they're covered. You rarely need to worry. You won't get refused on a technicality. You won't be shuttled to a different hospital that's in your network even though the one you're in has the same facilities.

I've had relatives that lived in the US and slowly died of treatable things, but couldn't afford the right kind of treatment and had to make do with second-rate service that even then bankrupted them anyway. How is that fair to anyone?

Universal healthcare. Try it, you'll like it.