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Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by coolThingsFirst on Thursday February 15, 2024 @09:07AM (#39382846)
because whenever productivity increases as do expectations. so it's a race with no end and salaries don't keep up. That's how CEOs line up their pockets with 100s of billions.
Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by bookofjoe on Thursday February 15, 2024 @09:15AM (#39382940)
As of yesterday the richest person in the world is Elon Musk, with a total net worth of $205B.

Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/?embedded-checkout=tr...

Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by coolThingsFirst on Thursday February 15, 2024 @10:54AM (#39384202)
Why not me?
Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by hmmmcurious1 on Thursday February 15, 2024 @10:09AM (#39383548)
You can have a lot of freetime if you optimize for it by living like a monk on a software engineer salary. However its not an attractive lifestyle so say goodbye to partners and children.
Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by j7ake on Friday February 16, 2024 @11:34PM (#39406389)
If you live like a monk, why do you need a software engineering salary?
Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by kjkjadksj on Thursday February 15, 2024 @11:52AM (#39385027)
With the modern attention economy, people having free time means money is left on the table still.
Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by paxys on Thursday February 15, 2024 @11:57AM (#39385078)
You don't work hard to have a good life, you do it to have a better life than the one yesterday and the day before that. That's just how we define success as a society. An average American from the 1950s was already living better than a king from a few hundred years ago, but we still continued to work and continued to move our civilization forward. That's not a bad thing.
Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by mdekkers on Friday February 16, 2024 @03:53AM (#39394715)
> An average American from the 1950s was already living better than a king from a few hundred years ago.

Arguably, the average “Westerner”, including Americans, from today does not live better than their 50s counterparts.

Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by namaria on Friday February 16, 2024 @02:43PM (#39401984)
The average non white-male westerner disagrees
Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by j7ake on Friday February 16, 2024 @11:37PM (#39406404)
In 1950s, a woman wouldn't even be able to get into universities like Yale.
Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by BehindBlueEyes on Sunday February 25, 2024 @11:31AM (#39502142)
No, that’s just what shareholders want you to think so you keep working hard at making their lives better.
Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by undedone on Thursday February 15, 2024 @12:16PM (#39385322)
The assumption was that work weeks would get shorter (15 hours / week), but perhaps it is more that careers can be shorter (work for a decade and then retire). Read: https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/09/15/a-brief-history-o...
Re:Why is free time still so elusive? by pcthrowaway on Thursday February 15, 2024 @01:10PM (#39386103)
Yeah, but aren't we going in the opposite direction, with many countries raising their retirement age due to longer life expectancies?