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Re:'I have not seen one cent': billions stolen in wage theft... by wahnfrieden on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @05:51PM (#39363963)
You don’t get strong property rights without strong state, the two go together hand in hand. You can concoct rules and regulations to control and prevent antisocial behavior and enforce a free market but that’s no solution itself to getting a state to do so without other dynamics coming with the state affecting that
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Re:'I have not seen one cent': billions stolen in wage theft... by ludwigDual on Wednesday February 14, 2024 @12:37PM (#39372618)
> You don’t get strong property rights without [a] strong state

Are there any states that don't forcefully take property and life without people's consent? States are well known for taxing their citizens and fighting wars.

There are certainly small communities that don't steal or murder from anyone, but scaling them up has many challenges. I'd argue cultural attitudes around property rights are more important to creating free societies than top down laws and enforcement. Obviously some legal framework and enforcement would be necessary.

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Re:'I have not seen one cent': billions stolen in wage theft... by wahnfrieden on Wednesday February 14, 2024 @09:22PM (#39378387)
Graeber/Wengrow wrote on this
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