Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by whatshisface on Monday February 12, 2024 @05:45PM
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Training AIs would be a great way to soak up daytime solar excess.
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Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by hooo on Monday February 12, 2024 @06:30PM
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But given the cost of the hardware, it doesn't make sense to idle them overnight. Owners of the hardware will want to utilize them as close to 100% as possible.
Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by whatshisface on Monday February 12, 2024 @08:55PM
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Datacenters upgrade their computers when the price of electricity outweighs the price of buying more efficient devices. Ergo, used datacenter hardware is separated from economic reuse by the price of electricity. That is what you would build the solar energy dumps out of.
Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by lm28469 on Monday February 12, 2024 @06:10PM
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Since computers are basically electrical resistances you might as well heat houses with them, put the data centers somewhere cold, next to a nuclear power plant, water cool them and heat a few neighbourhoods
Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by jijijijij on Monday February 12, 2024 @06:31PM
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You could, you know, use the heat of the nuclear power plant directly instead.
Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by lm28469 on Monday February 12, 2024 @06:45PM
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Then you lose the part where you get free computational power
Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by alberto180 on Monday February 12, 2024 @07:34PM
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You know what these huge towers with white smoke at nuclear plants do?
Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by lm28469 on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @04:45AM
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Yes they waste heat by releasing it in the atmosphere as water vapor. They neither power computers nor heats home
Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by kalleboo on Monday February 12, 2024 @11:23PM
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Nuclear plants only have about a 15 degree C temperature gradient in their cooling water in winter, the waste heat is not very useful. Swedish power companies have extensively researched using their nuke plants for district heating since they were planning the plants originally in the 60's, but it's never penciled out.
Meanwhile you can run a CPU up to 95 C.
Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by jijijijij on Tuesday February 13, 2024 @07:15AM
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Who is talking about waste heat? If you want to heat homes you could just use the thermal energy produced directly at a much higher efficiency. You don't need the detour of electricity generation at all.
See, my point isn't really that you should do that, but the fallacy in thinking there is a "free" energy hack for crypto, AI, ... . Wasting electrical energy is always bad.
Re:AI needs so much power that old coal plants are sticking ...
by kalleboo on Monday February 12, 2024 @11:03PM
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This is something that's actually done in Scandinavia https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/facebook-begins-i...