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Re:'I have not seen one cent': billions stolen in wage theft... by danaris on Monday February 12, 2024 @12:23PM (#39347591)
Ah, gotcha. If I ever learned that level of detail about Hitler's rise to power, I'm afraid I've since forgotten it.

Well, in the case where the choices are Hindenburg (who, at that point in time, may or may not choose to give power to Hitler), or Hitler...Hindenburg is objectively the correct choice.

It's also a great demonstration that the time to be trying to get yourself better options is before it gets to that point.

Re:'I have not seen one cent': billions stolen in wage theft... by wahnfrieden on Monday February 12, 2024 @12:48PM (#39347924)
A point of a demonstration of an extreme like that is a reflection on how fragile and disenfranchising a tactic voting can be. It's argued voting tames people from increasingly illegal alternative action which has historically been found necessary toward labor conditions improvements that we enjoy today (such as through wildcat strikes) or tames them into highly hierarchical and process bound forms of group coordination. Where the sum is a shapeshifting ruling class that largely works toward its own interests regardless of flavor or how often they bow to the power of popular or private interest movements.
Re:'I have not seen one cent': billions stolen in wage theft... by danaris on Monday February 12, 2024 @01:19PM (#39348322)
I find those arguments unpersuasive.

Voting and other forms of activism are not mutually exclusive, and removing voting from the equation does not particularly make those other forms more attractive, particularly given the likely reasons for people not to engage in other forms of activism today.