Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store Rules

Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by RetpolineDrama on Monday February 12, 2024 @11:49AM (#39347092)

The app store is not secure or trusted. They've shipped malware. App store reviewers have not launched one of my apps in the last... _34 releases_. Their last open was >6 mo ago. They review my releases, some with 100k LoC diffs, in <30m.

Their reviewer account was actually broken once for 4 months, and we always passed review anyways. Yes, I can tell if they used another account because once shipped Apple review is the _only_ group on the planet with that build # prior to release. They could launch the app without network but it wouldn't do anything since the the very first thing is to either refresh auth or login.

The App Store is a scam that I pay > $3M/year to Apple in fees for.

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by noqc on Monday February 12, 2024 @11:54AM (#39347165)

Of course, this should surprise no one. It is harder to read code than to write it, and Apple doesn't spend 12 trillion dollars per year on code review.

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by RetpolineDrama on Monday February 12, 2024 @11:58AM (#39347225)

To clarify, Apple can't see our source code but I imagine they can easily diff things like binary size and have basic decompiler tools to analyze things like what system APIs are called (how they bust you for private API use etc).

When we ship an update that adds a whole new branch of functionality that adds camera/mic interactions where there were none before (with all the new entitlements that requires) and the reviewer approves it without ever launching the app I laugh at comments like the GP

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by riversflow on Monday February 12, 2024 @12:07PM (#39347368)

The store is trusted though. Do you not understand what "trusted" means in a sales context? It means I'll get the binary I'm supposed to get, everytime, and my CC info will be secure. If something goes wrong, they'll refund me.

This isn't about developers it's about consumers.

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by noqc on Monday February 12, 2024 @12:11PM (#39347415)

The word trusted doesn't change meanings when you move to a sales context unless you're a salesman.

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by intelVISA on Monday February 12, 2024 @12:50PM (#39347965)

Trusted simply means that the arrangement benefits $bigcorp's bottom line.

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by riversflow on Monday February 12, 2024 @12:18PM (#39347517)

It only has a very specific meaning in software. To consumers Apple's App store is trusted.

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by noqc on Monday February 12, 2024 @12:52PM (#39347980)

I wonder what you would happen if you really probed a "consumer" about what they mean by trusted.

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by riversflow on Monday February 12, 2024 @01:18PM (#39348309)

I can guarantee you they aren't going to mention code audits.

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Re:Developers Are in Open Revolt over Apple's New App Store ... by noqc on Monday February 12, 2024 @04:19PM (#39350658)

Please do guarantee this, and then actually go perform this experiment.

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