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Re:What Would America Look Like If It Lost Wwiii? by 4gotunameagain on Sunday February 11, 2024 @05:31PM (#39339424)
> What bad thing would have happened to Russia, had Putin not decided to attempt an invasion?

Ukraine would've joined NATO. [1]

There was no reason for the US to contemplate, if not to pursue, Ukraine to be joining NATO.

Could you consider the collective panic and US reaction if a bordering state were to join the CSTO for example ?

Coups have been performed in countries much farther for much less. [2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

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Re:What Would America Look Like If It Lost Wwiii? by The_Colonel on Sunday February 11, 2024 @06:27PM (#39339862)
> Ukraine would've joined NATO.

That's just speculation. Germany has vetoed Ukraine's accession in 2008 and their position was not changed until this war. Same for France.

> Could you consider the collective panic and US reaction if a bordering state were to join the CSTO for example ?

I think US is wise enough to not annex parts of its neighbors to provoke such a reaction.

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Re:What Would America Look Like If It Lost Wwiii? by rsynnott on Sunday February 11, 2024 @06:35PM (#39339926)
> Ukraine would've joined NATO. [1]

… So what? Latvia and Estonia have been in NATO for ages.

> Could you consider the collective panic and US reaction if a bordering state were to join the CSTO for example ?

Would Poland, by the same token, be justified in invading Belarus?

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