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Re:Why it's impossible to agree on what's allowed by pixl97 on Saturday February 10, 2024 @11:38AM (#39327576)
Because chess has a throughout specification (at least now, not sure if it was always that way). A knight is only a night and cannot fall under any other category. Can you think of a rule in chess that is not well defined?
Re:Why it's impossible to agree on what's allowed by rileymat2 on Saturday February 10, 2024 @02:44PM (#39329532)
I think which player gets white is ill defined by the game proper, and selected by the various organizers/players.

Edit: I think in tournament chess there is some ill defined rules around play behavior/distractions.

Re:Why it's impossible to agree on what's allowed by pixl97 on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:46PM (#39330047)
But it's kind of the point that the well defined parts such as movement allowed per piece aren't really up for discussion.

Where the contention occurs is on human behaviors. Where the rules for chess are pretty simple (and yes, this does lead to difficult to compute and complex behavior), the motivations that humans follow both individually and as social structures are far more complex and contradictory.

Re:Why it's impossible to agree on what's allowed by hibbelig on Saturday February 10, 2024 @02:47PM (#39329542)
Well, GP compared the rules against real life and decided that they are different from real life, so they shouldn't be followed.

Chess rules are also different from real life, but people don't have any issues following them.

The question whether it was “well defined” doesn't come into play here, I think: the rules in the game tell you to ignore any overrides (such as that certain vehicles may be allowed in an emergency situation). And GP decided to ignore that part.

I think interesting discussion can be had even when respecting this rule. For example, I decided that a skate board is not a vehicle but a bike is.

Re:Why it's impossible to agree on what's allowed by pixl97 on Saturday February 10, 2024 @03:38PM (#39329983)
I disagree.

Lets take chess and the knight, and 2 - 1 movement rules. If there are pieces in front of the knight you pick up the knight off the board in 3 dimensional space, right?! The rules of chess only define the final end point of the piece and not the physical motion in real space to reach that location.

With this said, if you're in a professional setting, and you pick up the king and fly it around like an airplane, everyone is going to get really tired of your shit.

Re:Why it's impossible to agree on what's allowed by Tijdreiziger on Saturday February 10, 2024 @05:35PM (#39330847)
They’d be tired of your shit because you’d be acting like an ass, not because you’d be breaking any game rules.
Re:Why it's impossible to agree on what's allowed by solveit on Sunday February 11, 2024 @04:27AM (#39333733)
FIDE Laws of Chess: 11.5 - "It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever. This includes unreasonable claims, unreasonable offers of a draw or the introduction of a source of noise into the playing area."

Naturally, this rule is not interpreted literally.