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Re:Feds Seized Hip-Hop Site for a Year, Waiting for Proof of... by guelo on Friday May 04, 2012 @07:23PM (#3930774)
Yea Obama hoodwinked a lot of liberals including me, I agree with you that Obama vs Romney is not much difference except that with a Republican congress Romney could do more damage, and Romney's judges would be more authoritarian. I think their used to be a difference between the parties before Clinton. Clinton's "third way" reformulated the Democratic party to be more corporate friendly and pretty much decided to abandon liberal principles. Previous generation Democrats, Kennedy/LBJ/Carter, were actual liberals who believed in egalitarian principles. The Clinton/Obama school tries to be more "centrist" which basically means conservative-light, and they have been helped in this by the space opened up by Republicans' shift further right. Actual liberals have not been in power for over 30 years.
Re:Feds Seized Hip-Hop Site for a Year, Waiting for Proof of... by nirvana on Saturday May 05, 2012 @02:09PM (#3932748)
For what its worth, I don't think we've seen actual conservatives in power for 30 years either. neo-conservatism isn't very conservative at all-- for instance, conservatives really wouldn't care about gay marriage. opposing it goes against conservative principles.

Both parties have become authoritarian versions of themselves.

One point though- In the election of 2000 I often heard people say "If W gets elected it will be the end of abortion rights!" ... yet he had 2 terms and never actually did anything about abortion.