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Re:How to hire low experience, high potential people by duxup on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @10:26AM (#39289658)
I like that this isn't your typical skills demo.

I changed careers at age 40+, learned to code, now years later enjoying it. It just took someone who thought I could grow.

Interestingly I was hired along side some capable, albeit green, college grads. The difference in terms of understanding how a business works, speaking to customers, asking questions / follow through to get down to the problem we're solving was enormous. They could code circles around me, but they also just wanted to be told exactly what to code and had no interest beyond exactly that.

Re:How to hire low experience, high potential people by spaniard89277 on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:05AM (#39290187)
I'm 36 And also trying to get my foot in. It's very hard, wish I could find someone who gives me an opportunity. I've been interviewed but it's always about the skillset you bring to the table.

Can I throw you against a codebase and be productive quickly? Do you already have experience with this obscure library? I want to build now a website using React + Function Calling + Puppeteer, IDK what else to do to impress people.

Same happening with my gf, who is a graphic designer + UI/UX. She has some experience but only as freelancer, she's never been hired by anyone because it seems never enough.

I teached her HTML + CSS and she's been able to do this by herself (https://sofialenti.com/) so IDK what more a designer can learn. The only thing that's left IMO is to learn JS and be able to code some awesome stuff, but at that point she would be almost an unicorn.

It seems the market is just too saturated, despite the frequent news about we need millions of people who can do X! It seems like a way to get cheap and disposable labor.

Re:How to hire low experience, high potential people by geraldhh on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:42AM (#39303231)
> It seems the market is just too saturated, despite the frequent news about we need millions of people who can do X! It seems like a way to get cheap and disposable labor.

seems a good bet to stay clear of industrialized work environments if one doesn't want to be cheap and disposable labor.

Re:How to hire low experience, high potential people by CrimsonCape on Friday February 09, 2024 @01:59PM (#39318838)
Tech allows companies to solicit a planet-sized talent pool. Microsoft has an entire Indian branch of the company. While some individuals (i.e. the workers in India) are able to benefit, it comes with tradeoff: the local developer loses the job, and the guy or girl who would like to change careers to software development loses as well. Not to mention, the Microsoft coffers get larger since they can pay cheaper wages to the overseas dev.

All you can do is lobby for tighter restrictions, however of course Microsoft is lobbying at the same time with a larger bankroll than you.

Re:How to hire low experience, high potential people by chefandy on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:34AM (#39290627)
Ambiguity and uncertainty are anathema to approaching problems from the classic engineering mindset. That's not a bad thing when used properly, and it's great in school where people hand you a stream of problems designed to be interesting in that mentality, but it's not the general-purpose tool for interfacing with all problems, as some imagine. I've worked both as a developer and designer, and with design tasks, you've only got a fuzzy sense of the wrong answers before you manage to craft a right one. Many, if not most engineers find it much easier to assume designers sit around all day moving things about as they fancy rather than imagining what it would take to solve ambiguous problems with no way to determine if you've got a really good solution until many people start interacting with it.