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Re:Spotify CEO Daniel Ek tells investors Apple's DMA rules a... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday February 06, 2024 @01:53PM (#39278741)
> Prove to me that Apple has never marketed the App Store or the fact that you can run non-Apple software on an iPhone

Being able to install third-party software does not make the iPhone a general-purpose computer. Apple never marketed its devices as general-purpose computers. The original iPhone didn't even allow third-party apps. (Had they, there would be a false marketing angle to play. But they didn't so there isn't.)

> if you want to sell a product which relies on software written by other people (that are not the vendor) to be successful, then you have to go the whole way

This is the debate. Restating a position isn't argument.

Re:Spotify CEO Daniel Ek tells investors Apple's DMA rules a... by rekoil on Tuesday February 06, 2024 @02:14PM (#39279075)
> Had they, there would be a false marketing angle to play. But they didn't so there isn't.

That argument is relevant for the original iPhone, not for any iPhones sold after the advent of the App Store.

> Apple never marketed its devices as general-purpose computers.

Yet they are. It isn't up to the manufacturer to choose which class of regulations they want to play under, that definition is for an external part to decide, otherwise Apple could just classify all of their devices as fidget spinners and do whatever the hell they want.