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Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by altairprime on Monday February 05, 2024 @01:24PM (#39264726)
> You don’t think twice about hopping into a passenger vehicle.

I think twice quite regularly about hopping into a Tesla, and after years of avoiding them solely for aesthetic dislike, I found that they also have been burying quality control issues rather than repairing them — just like Boeing! — and so I intend to continue avoiding riding in them whenever possible.

> You don’t […] refuse to hop in an Uber driving the “wrong” make/model vehicle.

I learned how to select the ride level in Uber/Lyft to ensure I don’t get a Tesla.

> traffic fatalities are so common they’re boring and routine.

Traffic fatalities are unforced errors that I invest most of my energy while driving into avoiding — not just my own errors, but the potential errors of the walking and driving into avoiding. I won’t enter an intersection on the walk signal until I see the car start to decelerate, because I can’t trust that they’ve looked up from their phone long enough to prevent an unforced error that kills me. It’s the same lesson taught by “This vehicle stops at all railroad crossings” and “Don’t sleep under coconut trees”: the odds are slim that diligence saves lives, so remain diligent and occasionally save lives. I am just one life, and while I cannot take every precaution, I can certainly take those precautions that I deem worthwhile.

I recognize I’m more likely to die to a Tesla than in a Boeing and I have more precautions assigned to Teslas than I do Boeings. However: if the plane door blows off, I’ll be traumatized even if I live, and I would rather avoid that. As public transit riders, we do not deserve the increased chance of severe traumatic events that Boeing is inflicting on their passengers, onto us, by their shoddy manufacturing and QA.

Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by nsguy on Monday February 05, 2024 @04:23PM (#39267397)
Isn't there independent data about accidents or deaths per driven mile per vehicle brand/type? I don't think Tesla is over-represented there? Even in that data there can be confounders... I would look at those vs. rumours about quality control.

But hey, I rode a motorcycle for ~25 years which is definitely riskier than a Tesla.

Being careful as a pedestrian makes perfect sense. I got these things drilled into me as a kid, because when we were kids we walked everywhere.

Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by altairprime on Monday February 05, 2024 @08:08PM (#39269484)
I mean, I also watch closely at any electric 3-ton and heavier vehicle — they’re all going to instakill me in my 1-ton vehicle! — but Tesla in my region has an especially high chance of being driven (or autopiloted) unsafely, so I take especial care; the Rivian drivers are totally chill so far. If I was in another region like one of my family is, I’d have to watch out for big trucks “accidentally” trying to sideswipe me so they can pretend they’re Nascar drivers and zoom off without a rear plate, but that doesn’t happen much here where I live. Local circumstances always vary from nationwide statistics.
Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by drstewart on Monday February 05, 2024 @04:11PM (#39267244)
>I think twice quite regularly about hopping into a Tesla, and after years of avoiding them solely for aesthetic dislike, I found that they also have been burying quality control issues rather than repairing them — just like Boeing! — and so I intend to continue avoiding riding in them whenever possible.

Thank you!! Just like you're anti-Maxx, I'm anti-vaxx, no matter what the data says, I don't trust Pfizer / Boeing. We're twins and I'm glad the "I did my own research" and "I don't trust the experts" narratives are finally getting their fair shake.

Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback by altairprime on Monday February 05, 2024 @06:20PM (#39268576)
> you’re anti-Maxx

Well, I was a big fan of the Maxx when it broadcast back of the 90s, I think?, but I haven’t rewatched it since then, so I don’t really have any opinion anymore. Maybe I’ll take a look again, though I admit I don’t follow how it’s related.

> I don’t trust Pfizer / Boeing

Their Covid vaccine is second to none for me, of all the different vaccines I’ve received since 2015. You’re definitely missing out — I encourage giving them a second chance for your next booster. Is there some financial connection between Pfizer and Boeing that I should be aware of?