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Re:Caesars abruptly cancels contract with DEF CON by TheCondor on Monday February 05, 2024 @12:21PM (#39263726)
Among some other really cringey behaviors.

I've seen bottles of alcohol passed around doing talks and heard more than a few really off color jokes about criminal sex acts and such. Vegas waitresses have seen it all also but there was over the top behavior.

We're in a victim dominant culture now, "it's not you or what you've done, you're just a victim of evil or something" but at more than a few Def Cons and more than a few times, it was really uncomfortable to be there and see some of the stuff that was happening.

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Re:Caesars abruptly cancels contract with DEF CON by tptacek on Monday February 05, 2024 @12:56PM (#39264243)
Defcon was always a very boozy conference. It's not a professional event. It's Burning Man for high school AV clubs.
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Re:Caesars abruptly cancels contract with DEF CON by TheCondor on Monday February 05, 2024 @04:55PM (#39267783)
I think it might be "Burning Man" for the guys not quite "cool enough" to be in the high school AV Club...
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Re:Caesars abruptly cancels contract with DEF CON by tekla on Monday February 05, 2024 @12:37PM (#39263956)
Yes, counter-culture is counter-culture. It was meant to make normals uncomfy.
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Re:Caesars abruptly cancels contract with DEF CON by queuebert on Monday February 05, 2024 @01:00PM (#39264335)
Guess what? Hotels are run by normals.
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Re:Caesars abruptly cancels contract with DEF CON by tekla on Monday February 05, 2024 @01:21PM (#39264677)
And they are perfectly fine with the crowd. I've chatted with many hotel staff and almost all of them are happy with the DC crowd. Generally tips well and are polite even when drunk, some assholes, but thats normal with any crowd.

Worst case scenario is usually they tell people to disperse, but otherwise, they always seemed to laugh when they saw shenanigans (except for people fucking with Casino machines, thats a fast way to make them mad)

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Re:Caesars abruptly cancels contract with DEF CON by MichaelZuo on Monday February 05, 2024 @04:28PM (#39267464)
So how would you explain the original cancellation of DEF CON 32?
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Re:Caesars abruptly cancels contract with DEF CON by sgift on Monday February 05, 2024 @06:17PM (#39268545)
Probably, because of what mrandish said at the start of the thread. Management thinks they can earn more money from others. If hotel staff is treated well and/or gets good tips doesn't factor in the decision process which event is hosted. As long as someone spends enough for managers to get their bonuses management is happy.
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Re:Caesars abruptly cancels contract with DEF CON by MichaelZuo on Monday February 05, 2024 @11:21PM (#39270761)
It doesn't appear there are any similar sized conferences scheduled for the original time slot though? Or that there will be one in the near future, unless you know of some information.
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