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Re:SAT (and ACT) scores are highly predictive of academic ac... by CharlieDigital on Monday February 05, 2024 @12:10PM (#39263587) 

    > IMO the thing that tests do not sample is persistance
See Angela Duckworth's research on "grit"; it is indeed very difficult to test for.
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Re:SAT (and ACT) scores are highly predictive of academic ac... by Animats on Monday February 05, 2024 @02:41PM (#39266010)
No, it's not hard to test for. Military units test for it routinely. At the SEAL/Delta/Army Special Forces level, the testing for that is insane.

Some companies used to do this. Around 1900, if you went to work for a major US steel company, you started out shoveling coal. Even if you were destined for management. Japan Air Lines pilot training for new pilots involves a stage where they do grunt jobs in maintenance such as checking incoming part serial numbers.

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Re:SAT (and ACT) scores are highly predictive of academic ac... by CharlieDigital on Monday February 05, 2024 @03:58PM (#39267065) 

    > No, it's not hard to test for.
Hmm...

    > ...the testing for that is insane.
Sounds like it's...hard to test for.
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Re:SAT (and ACT) scores are highly predictive of academic ac... by omgJustTest on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @11:55AM (#39290914)
I would agree it is hard but not impossible to test for. The test being very long, at some point people just figure no one can finish it... and in some ways that is how I feel about work in life.

I imagine if you told people "we are not testing for correctness, just number of problems solved" then you would skew this test.

However when the tests were administered in the longitudinal study, the researchers didn't know which metrics would be important so they just put a lot of problems on it.

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